Jmu pre season #5

[ODUAlum78]

While we're being realistic, can you just admit that Demarco wasn't that good? Demarco missed as many, or even more open receivers than Thorpe and Edwards (First W&M game, Delaware, and UMass), and him going down against UMass saved your season. Heinicke was vastly more impressive than Demarco just from his performance against UMass alone.

No question about that.
Demarco was a very good athlete, and an especially a good scrambler.
He was an average passing QB, at best, but a great leader.

One thing many don't know; Demarco was not recruited by ODU. He sent Bobby Wilder a letter and I think a video tape, and asked for a tryout as..a punter.

[N2theBLUE]

FYI- Today I happened to glance at a copy of USA Today Pre-Season College Football and they have JMU ranked #4.

[BDKJMU]

I doubt you see it in FBS. Maybe GA Tech or Navy. Similar offenses.

Army & Air Force I think still also run some version of the TO.

At the I-AA level, in addition to GSU, off the top of my head, Wofford & VMI run versions of it. Citadel recently went away from it....

[JMUDukes1750]

Army & Air Force I think still also run some version of the TO.

At the I-AA level, in addition to GSU, off the top of my head, Wofford & VMI run versions of it. Citadel recently went away from it....

I think VMI dumped the option for a more pro style attack, but you can add Cal Poly to that list as well.

[BDKJMU]

OK. the ND situation is not as drastic (Maine is though), but I am still not sure it warrants pre season #2

Negative on Maine's losses this season being nearly as drastic as Nova's last season. Not even close. I live near Villanova so I hear about some up here. I dug up an old post from last yr on what they lost.

Again Nova again heading into last season had lost about 14 of 22 starters. 10 of those lost made 1st-3rd team All CAA, along with several AAs:
-1st team All CAA, consensus AA & 2nd round draft pick LT Ijalana
-Would have been 1st team All CAA and consensus AA if he hadn't gotten injured and missed 1/2 the season WR/RB Szcur
-1st team All CAA, AA LG Clauser
-1st team All CAA, AA LB Kirkland
-1st team All CAA LB Thomas
-1st team All CAA, pre season AA (season ending injury) WR White
-2nd team All CAA QB Whitney
-2nd team All CAA S Maldonado
-3rd team All CAA RB Ball
-3rd team All CAA DT Weaver
-3rd team All CAA S Dempsey
I don't think I've ever seen a CAA team lost as much talent from one season to the next.

Contrast that with Maine. They lose 6 players that made 1st-3rd team All CAA to the 10 for Nova last season. Lost 1 AA player to 4 for Villanova last season:
1st team all CAA & AA safety Jerron McMilliam,
2nd team All CAA QB Warren Smith
2nd team All CAA LB Vincent Givens
2nd Team All CAA S Trevor Coston
3rd team All CAA: RB Pushaun Brown
3rd team All CAA DL Raibonne Charles

Maine according to their game notes with JMU had 9 of 22 as seniors. But they return 5 players who had 1st-2nd team all CAA honors last season compared to last season Nova returning 1 + a couple of 3rd teamers:
1st team All CAA WR Maurice McDonald,
1st team All CAA OL Chris Howley,
2nd team All CAA: TE Justin Perillo
2nd Team All CAA OL Josh Spearin
2nd Team All CAA DL Michael Cole
Contrast that with Villanova last season. I thi.

The ?? for Maine is at QB, where both Smith and the backup (who scored the winning 2 PT conversion against JMU) were seniors. If Maine can come up with decent play at QB they could post a winning record, possibly make the playoffs.

If I was a betting man I'd wager 6-5.

[ODUAlum78]

Negative on Maine's losses this season being nearly as drastic as Nova's last season.

Nova again heading into last season had lost 14 of 22 starters. Most of those lost (I believe 10-11 had made 1st-3rd team All CAA, along with several AAs. They lost a 2nd round draft pick in Ijalana. They lost Sczur. I don't think I've ever seen a CAA team lost as much talent from one season to the next.

Maine according to their game notes with JMU had 9 of 22 as seniors.
Key returners:
1st team All CAA: WR Maurice McDonald, OL Chris Howley,
2nd team All CAA: TE Justin Perillo, OL Josh Spearin, DL Michael Cole
Key losses:
1st team all CAA safety Jerron McMilliam,
2nd team All CAA QB Warren Smith, LB Vincent Givens, S Trevor Coston
3rd team All CAA: RB Pushaun Brown, DL Raibonne Charles

The ?? for Maine is at QB, where both Smith and the backup (who scored the winning 2 PT conversion against JMU) were seniors. If Maine can come up with decent play at QB they could post a winning record, possibly make the playoffs.

If I was a betting man I'd wager 6-5.

You are all offense.

Maine Defense: 5 key losses.
DL - Raibonne Charles
DB - Trevor Coston
LB - Vinson Givans
DB - Jerron McMillian
DL - Kevin Phanor

This is why I think Maine is in trouble.

[TheDudeWithTheJMUTat]

hahahhaa. Tat, whatever it was, or has been, that's pissed you off around here get the eff over it. You're a rugger, you're tougher than that, or this. quality posts like this demand you contribute more often.

Ahh fair enough. I'll stop tucking it between my legs.

[Beenjammin More]

Haha, you mean the National Champion winner who we played closer than anyone else they played at their place?

On a side note connected to NDSU, I read in a tweet from Jay Bil-ass this AM (not a subscriber but it landed in my email somehow) that the NCAA screwed up and sent NDSU's National Championship Banner to North Dakota by mistake. Par for the course. LOL

[BDKJMU]

You are all offense.

Maine Defense: 5 key losses.
DL - Raibonne Charles
DB - Trevor Coston
LB - Vinson Givans
DB - Jerron McMillian
DL - Kevin Phanor

This is why I think Maine is in trouble.

As far as key loses, I was refering to guys who made all CAA. The last guy you listed I didn't see making All CAA.

Regardless of how well Maine does, their losses pale to what Nova faced last yr.

[ODUAlum78]

As far as key loses, I was refering to guys who made all CAA. The last guy you listed I didn't see making All CAA.

Regardless of how well Maine does, their losses pale to what Nova faced last yr.

My contention is that Maine may do no better than Villanova did last year due to key personnel hits. It's not just about the raw numbers.