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    Default Re: Why Are VCU and George Mason Leaving The CAA For The A-10?

    How often has the regular season champ in the A10 or CUSA been left out of the tournament?

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    Default Re: Why Are VCU and George Mason Leaving The CAA For The A-10?

    Quote Originally Posted by EverRespect View Post
    How often has the regular season champ in the A10 or CUSA been left out of the tournament?
    What are the odds of being the A10 regular season champ, or winning the A10 tourny, as compared to the CAA?

    I guess the assumption is that by moving to a higher ranked conference, a team like VCU or Mason will quickly become a better team - by attracting better talent, etc. - and thereby maintain the same level of competitiveness despite being in a tougher conference. That certainly could happen, but somehow teams finish in last place every year even in mighty conferences like the A10.
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    Default Re: Why Are VCU and George Mason Leaving The CAA For The A-10?

    Quote Originally Posted by brooklinespider View Post
    You can't just look at bids, you need to look at seeds as well. This contributes a lot to teams successfully winning their first round game and getting to the Sweet 16. And yes while the A10 has not had any miracle runs to the Final 4, they have had #1 seeds and multiple Elite 8's. Come on VCU pull the trigger and replace Charlotte.
    yes, let's do that....let's look at seeds.

    Is it any coincedence that the CAA has been winning more games in the NCAA's because it's been getting better seeds? years ago, we got 14/15 seeds and didn't win. Now our champ and ever the at large teams are getting 9's, 11's, etc....and winning more.

    this will continue.

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    Default Re: Why Are VCU and George Mason Leaving The CAA For The A-10?

    Quote Originally Posted by Duke Dawg View Post
    yes, let's do that....let's look at seeds.

    Is it any coincedence that the CAA has been winning more games in the NCAA's because it's been getting better seeds? years ago, we got 14/15 seeds and didn't win. Now our champ and ever the at large teams are getting 9's, 11's, etc....and winning more.

    this will continue.
    it will only continue if Mason, VCU and ODU are in the conference. We get the bids....we win the games, we boost the RPI.
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    Conf us making a bigtime bowl is very rare. And we aren't getting a bcs conference invite.

    So like I said, unless we go big east, I'd rather stay fcs.

    There is no "national respect" for conference USA or sunbelt teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by potus#4 View Post
    What are the odds of being the A10 regular season champ, or winning the A10 tourny, as compared to the CAA?

    I guess the assumption is that by moving to a higher ranked conference, a team like VCU or Mason will quickly become a better team - by attracting better talent, etc. - and thereby maintain the same level of competitiveness despite being in a tougher conference. That certainly could happen, but somehow teams finish in last place every year even in mighty conferences like the A10.
    No, I don't believe teams going to the A10 makes them any better, but it allows them to showcase how good they are. Last year Drexel was without Givens early, causing them 2 bad losses... GMU had a new coach and a mostly new team causing a bad start... if they were in the A10, they could overcome bad starts and could have been at large bids.

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    Default Re: Why Are VCU and George Mason Leaving The CAA For The A-10?

    Quote Originally Posted by MasonCAA View Post
    it will only continue if Mason, VCU and ODU are in the conference. We get the bids....we win the games, we boost the RPI.
    no s$&t sherlock...you really are a genius.

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    Default Re: Why Are VCU and George Mason Leaving The CAA For The A-10?

    Quote Originally Posted by Duke Dawg View Post
    don't forget Charlotte....a regular participant in the NCAA while in CUSA...I don't believe they have ever made it in the A10. While i understand they didn't move "up" necessairly, the point is the A10 hasn't exactly benefited a previously very successful basketball program.
    And I'm sure that had nothing to do with Delonte Hill leaving Charlotte after putting together the last good team there. Funny how Kansas St. blew up as a program as soon as Hill got there...and notice AMrylands recruiting class this year.

    Also very much a case where CUSA in general got killed once they lost Louisville, Cincinnati, Marquette as well as DePaul and USF...along with St. Louis and Charlotte. And sure, Charlotte was a geographic misfit in the A10, sure that had an effect. But as we know, GMU and VCU would fit into the heart of the A10, miles from the A10 office, and with natural rivalries with GW and Richmond. So it's a safe assumption that we can exclude GMU/VCU from any of the issues Charlotte had since neither school has a guy like Hill recruiting for them, and both schools would create a 4-some in DC & Richmond, the top 4 programs in the area not in the Big East or ACC.

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    Default Re: Why Are VCU and George Mason Leaving The CAA For The A-10?

    Quote Originally Posted by Duke Dawg View Post
    the CAA has 2 miracles in 6 years....the A10 is still waiting for its first miracle, even with all those at large bids.
    Not sure what your point is. The relevance in proposed value isn't based on how schools do when they get in the tournament, it's the ability to even get into the tournament. Increased chance of an NCAA bid is the value metric. It's a near lock when an A10 school wins the conference that they will get an at-large. When a CAA school is in that position, they are in "bubble" status.

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    Exclamation Re: Why Are VCU and George Mason Leaving The CAA For The A-10?

    MASON SAYS NO????

    —By Thomas Block, Program Director for Eyesradio @tomcblock

    For many months rumors have been circulating about the George Mason Patriots leave the CAA and joining the Atlantic-10 conference. Depending on who you talked to it was either accepted as a great thing for Mason or just bad timing.

    I have learned today from sources within the Athletic Department that George Mason WILL NOT be going to the Atlantic-10 and this decision just happened within the last day or so. The hesitation to make the jump was the ultimate factor and had nothing to do with what VCU wanted to accomplish. At this time, it is unclear if VCU is still in the position to make the move.

    Unconfirmed reports though suggest that incoming President, Dr. Angel Cabrera, was not in favor of the move.


    http://www.eyesradio.com/2012/52-bre...on-to-the-a10/

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    Default Re: Why Are VCU and George Mason Leaving The CAA For The A-10?

    Quote Originally Posted by BigE View Post
    MASON SAYS NO????

    —By Thomas Block, Program Director for Eyesradio @tomcblock

    For many months rumors have been circulating about the George Mason Patriots leave the CAA and joining the Atlantic-10 conference. Depending on who you talked to it was either accepted as a great thing for Mason or just bad timing.

    I have learned today from sources within the Athletic Department that George Mason WILL NOT be going to the Atlantic-10 and this decision just happened within the last day or so. The hesitation to make the jump was the ultimate factor and had nothing to do with what VCU wanted to accomplish. At this time, it is unclear if VCU is still in the position to make the move.

    Unconfirmed reports though suggest that incoming President, Dr. Angel Cabrera, was not in favor of the move.


    http://www.eyesradio.com/2012/52-bre...on-to-the-a10/
    Doesn't the use of four question marks in the headline call into question the validity of all of the scribbling that follows? LOL

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