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  1. #11
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    "Put some extra mootsarella on dat **** Sal....."

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    Wait, what is wrong with Spike Lee speaking at WM? The school has dozens of speakers every year, I fail to see an issue with this.

    And as for the republican guy trying to paint liberals as intolerant, I'm a hard-core Dem who works in Democratic politics and I'd be thrilled to see Cheney at WM. I disagree with him completely, but as a person who has had an outsize impact on our country (whether good or bad), it'd be great for the school and a great experience for students. So nice try on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tribe11 View Post
    Wait, what is wrong with Spike Lee speaking at WM? The school has dozens of speakers every year, I fail to see an issue with this.

    And as for the republican guy trying to paint liberals as intolerant, I'm a hard-core Dem who works in Democratic politics and I'd be thrilled to see Cheney at WM. I disagree with him completely, but as a person who has had an outsize impact on our country (whether good or bad), it'd be great for the school and a great experience for students. So nice try on that.
    That is what I like to hear. Sorry to break your bubble but I am not a repub but an independent fiscal conservative & social moderate (something for everybody to disagree with:>).

    But the problem is that you are in the small minority around W&M profs. Try your idea on a few of them & watch them go apoplectic :>)

    An example comes to mind. A year or two ago the subject of waterboarding was to be debated. Problem was only people opposed to waterboarding were invited. That is the W&M approach to debate. One of the profs I asked why saw no problem with the makeup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wanm65 View Post
    That is what I like to hear. Sorry to break your bubble but I am not a repub but an independent fiscal conservative & social moderate (something for everybody to disagree with:>).

    But the problem is that you are in the small minority around W&M profs. Try your idea on a few of them & watch them go apoplectic :>)

    An example comes to mind. A year or two ago the subject of waterboarding was to be debated. Problem was only people opposed to waterboarding were invited. That is the W&M approach to debate. One of the profs I asked why saw no problem with the makeup.
    No offense WAMN65, you may not be a registered Republican, but its no secret from your posts on this board where you fall on the political spectrum. You rarely miss an opportunity to take a shot at the left. Nothing wrong with that, but let's not pretend you're impartial or unbiased. You beat the liberal professor drum like NJ beats the conference apocalypse drum

    I'm politically minded myself, but try to keep it off the main board as much as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WMTribe90 View Post
    No offense WAMN65, you may not be a registered Republican, but its no secret from your posts on this board where you fall on the political spectrum. You rarely miss an opportunity to take a shot at the left. Nothing wrong with that, but let's not pretend you're impartial or unbiased. You beat the liberal professor drum like NJ beats the conference apocalypse drum

    I'm politically minded myself, but try to keep it off the main board as much as possible.
    Excellent points.

    And I did not say I was impartial or unbiased. I believe my statement that I am an independent fiscal conservative makes my bias pretty clear. In fact everyone has biases.

    "You beat the liberal professor drum like NJ beats the conference apocalypse drum" That is a cool comment & properly fits my many past encounters with W&M profs.

    And if you check the posts you will find I responded to posts I did not start them.

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    WMTribe90

    I forgot to mention my most important point.

    I would be equally disappointed if W&M profs were conservative.

    I believe a W&M education is valuable when students are taught to analyze & think critically with both perspectives taken into account. When one or the other group predominates I believe that does not happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wanm65 View Post
    WMTribe90

    I forgot to mention my most important point.

    I would be equally disappointed if W&M profs were conservative.

    I believe a W&M education is valuable when students are taught to analyze & think critically with both perspectives taken into account. When one or the other group predominates I believe that does not happen.
    Agreed, but its hard for professors to remain neutral when facts have a known liberal bias (see climate science, evolution, supply-side economics, etc.).

    Thinking back on my college experience I couldn't begin to even guess the political leanings of any of my professors, including my Government professors. So to me, the the liberal/elitist academia bit is just another overblown boogieman used to rile up the conservative base. Who knows though, maybe I was taught a socialist version of organic chemistry and never realized it. Come to think of it, all those atoms bonding together to form compounds that are stronger than the individual atoms....sounds like Marxist indoctrination to me.
    Last edited by WMTribe90; 03-27-2012 at 11:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WMTribe90 View Post
    Agreed, but its hard for professors to remain neutral when facts have a known liberal bias (see climate science, evolution, supply-side economics, etc.).

    Thinking back on my college experience I couldn't begin to even guess the political leanings of any of my professors, including my Government professors. So to me, the the liberal/elitist academia bit is just another overblown boogieman used to rile up the conservative base. Who knows though, maybe I was taught a socialist version of organic chemistry and never realized it. Come to think of it, all those atoms bonding together to form compounds that are stronger than the individual atoms....sounds Marxist indoctrination to me.
    When I went to W&M (a very long time ago) the place was conservative. Not that I cared one way or the other at the time :>) Have no clue when it changed

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    I am a free thinker and would never allow a political party to sway my beliefs. I can't recall a time when a W&M professor beat a liberal or conservative drum but my grad school profs made no secret about their beliefs (to be fair, I was enrolled at VCU in probably the most liberal field). I didn't start this thread in an attempt to condemn Spike or start a political argument but I completely disagree with his use of a college forum to spew his unfounded bias and publicly try an individual who hasn't been charged with a crime. Certain individuals make a handsome living feeding off emotions of the public (i.e. Duke Lacrosse) and they offer nothing of value, IMO. That was the way in Salem, Mass but our Constitution states differently.

    For the record, I think Rush Limbaugh is an idiot so my stance on this isn't reserved for any one group/party.

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    The problem with Spike Lee is not his political beliefs, with which I disagree, but rather his hate speech and lack of respect for facts and knowledge instead of just spouting his own opinions, imho.
    Last edited by LeadBolt; 03-28-2012 at 09:12 AM.

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