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DUfunnyman
10-03-2003, 08:34 AM
I know it's not much right now, and every link is broken, but finally after all the red tape we had to go through, it's up and running. Now we just need to find someone to work on it:

http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~dsodacp

Dr. Exel
10-03-2003, 09:30 AM
Gotta start somewhere right? Did Zipp get this up? I have a ton of pictures, who should I email them to?

DUfunnyman
10-03-2003, 10:09 AM
Nah I put that up.

Send the pictures here:

ni25@drexel.edu

jenkins
10-03-2003, 11:06 AM
Nice start to your site. YOu have one of the better student/fan organizations in the CAA. But looking at a quote

"Needless to say, Callahan choked on both free throws and the game
went into OT. Just a classic example of how the DAC PACK had a profound impact on the outcome."

Don't forget that you lost that game, and CC was already going through a free throw shooting slump several games before that. After that game, he snapped out of it for the rest of the season, so thanks for helping him get his groove back at the charity stripe :D

hardcoredon
10-03-2003, 12:06 PM
Looks great to me. Once we get the pics and links up and running it will really be great. Is is basketball season yet?

jski1977
10-03-2003, 03:57 PM
Also, in reference to that Callahan comment...I don't know if that is a private page or its associated with the school at all. If its associated with the school, I'd think that the university administrators would probably prefer you keep it to more positive comments about Drexel, rather than negative comments about opponants.

The DAC PACK, like any student fan organization should should be focussed on being a spirit group and acting as a 6th Man. Its goal should be to back Drexel as opposed to spewing negativity at the opposition (though, I'll concede, that is a part of the college basketball experience, but its not the main part).

Stress the fact that fans CAN change the face of a game, and can make a difference as opposed to saying Craig Callahan choked. Coming from someone not associated with Drexel, it just makes the school and organization look bad when you make a statement like that.

If thats someone's private page then do whatever you'd like.

Fan of the Year
10-03-2003, 04:59 PM
It's good to see we finally have something going. I want to put on a section about road trips once we get it completely functional.

DUfunnyman
10-03-2003, 06:23 PM
Well, earlier in the paragraph, I did state "one of Wimington's star players, Craig Callahan stepped to the line." So I'm not denying his ability. Everyone in the gym knew he choked, even the Wilmington fans. I mean, it happens, especially when the gym is that loud. I mean, that was our defining moment last year, where you could actually see how much of an impact we actually had on the game.

I don't think saying he "choked" is trashing Craig Callahan. I mean, it's true, he did choke, that's not my opinion, it's a fact. The guy's a good foul shooter, no way he's gonna miss two (barely hitting the rim) in a row unless his nerves were getting to him. Trashing someone would be just offering an opinion on how you think a guy sucks and why. Is it just the word "choke" that makes it seem that way? How about I just replace that word with the word "missed". Would that change the way the comment is perceived?

DUKev
10-03-2003, 06:44 PM
Stress the fact that fans CAN change the face of a game, and can make a difference as opposed to saying Craig Callahan choked. Coming from someone not associated with Drexel, it just makes the school and organization look bad when you make a statement like that.
Oh dear, we wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feelings or be polically incorrect!
:roll:

DUKev
10-03-2003, 06:46 PM
oh and do we have $10 to spare in the budget, we can get dacpack.com and people wont have to type in gibberish to get to it.

hardcoredon
10-03-2003, 08:27 PM
Kev brings up a good point. Some of the extra money that we have in the budget could be used to get dacpack.com. That would be a lot nicer and easier to promote than the current address. Like he says, it only costs $10.

As far as the PC, I kinda see the point. But then at the same time, we wouldn't want to do anything that would take away from our reputation as the most crude fans in the league would we??

jski1977
10-06-2003, 11:35 AM
Guys, you are missing the point of what I said...

You and all of your buddies can know Craig Callahan choked.
I can know Craig Callahan choked.
Craig Callahan can know Craig Callahan choked.

Thats fine.

Universities need to be PC for many obvious reasons. Its my assumption that this site is being hosted by the university and the university is footing a portion of the tab to have your organization exist. Realize though that because the school has a stake in you guys, that you have the responsibility to represent them. And represent them in a way that is somewhat respectable. I'd tell you guys a story about Mike Jarvis and JMU if you had any interest in reading it :) He probably did as much to kill student interest in JMU basketball than a couple losing seasons and the subsequent hiring of the Shermanator!

I'm glad to hear that your student group is growing in its fledgling years. Congrats to those of you that started the thing up...but as it gets bigger you're going to be held to a slightly different level of scrutiny.

I'd probably just make sure everything you wrote had a pro Drexel focus - because thats really what your focus as an organization is. I know its difficult to separate these two, but it comes off as seeming like the DACPACK is out there to make other teams "choke" as opposed to creating a home court advantage so great that in leads Drexel to victory. I'm not sure that is the appearance Dr. Zillmer and Coach Flint want :wink:

DrexelTim
10-06-2003, 12:47 PM
Realize though that because the school has a stake in you guys, that you have the responsibility to represent them. And represent them in a way that is somewhat respectable

Do you work for the Drexel Administration or something? Listen up Comrade, its time to stop towing the party line.



Its my assumption that this site is being hosted by the university and the university is footing a portion of the tab to have your organization exist.

If the DacPac is like any other Drexel organization their money comes from the Student Activities fee, which is controlled and distributed by the SAFAC committee, which is made up of students. This whole setup is to prevent the sort of "PC", pinko, thought-policing you seem to be advocating.



I'd probably just make sure everything you wrote had a pro Drexel focus - because that's really what your focus as an organization is.

I'm sure the DacPac appreciates you telling them what their focus is, Comrade.


I know its difficult to separate these two, but it comes off as seeming like the DACPACK is out there to make other teams "choke" as opposed to creating a home court advantage so great that in leads Drexel to victory.

One of the effects of a "great home court advantage" is that it make chokers like Craig Choke-ahan, choke. All this nonsense you would swear you were from Delaware.

hardcoredon
10-06-2003, 12:57 PM
All this nonsense you would swear you were from Delaware.

No Tim, he didn't

...brag about the number of hats/winter jackets sold
...make fun of the DAC for being small
...say we will never build a new arena
...propose kicking us out of the CAA because we have a terrible sports program which totally dominated his school
...use childish name calling
...threaten to "beat us up"

The list goes on and on. No Tim, in this case, just a lot of nonsense.

jski1977
10-06-2003, 01:34 PM
I'm not going to start a barrage of words here, "Comrade". I think you need to see and understand where your bread is buttered. The student activity fee money is DREXEL'S money. And you will receive as much of it as they deem you are worthy of receiving. If you take the attitude and others take this attitude, your group is doomed to fail. They'll give the money you received this year to the Indian/Pakistani deoderant and mouthwash fund. That would be unfortunate, bucause every school deserves to have a passionate student "fan organization".

During Lefty Driesell's tenure at Madison, a student organization known as "The Electric Zoo" graced the baselines at the Convo. This was as rabid a group of students that you'd want to see in a college basketball arena. During my 1995-1996 freshman year, a nationally ranked GW team coached by Mike Jarvis and led by Alexandre Kuehl, Kwame Evans, (and I forget the name of th little 5'5'' point guard) came to town. The Zoo Cage went nuts the entire game - mainly insulting Jarvis, chanting "Uncle Phil" in his direction because he looked like the dude from the Fresh Prince of Bel Air and also chanting "USA" because 3/4 of the GW squad was from overseas. I even believe I remember Kuehl being called a Commie a few times.

To make a long stort short, this game wasn't THAt much different than the games that had occurred previously at the Convo, but...Miek Jarvis didnt like what he had experienced, denouncing teh Zoo to Washington newspapers, and proclaiming that "he'd never take another Mike Jarvis coached team into the Convo". So who took the fall? Who ended up looking bad? The student organization? Yeah, a little? The school? yeah, a little Who ended up getting hurt? Everyone...The school was disgraced, the program was hurt because GW, who has come to the Convo to play every other year, stopped, and other solid programs followed suit. The Zoo Cage was never the same, and it eventually ceased to exist at the end of the season.

So before you start talking about "toeing the line" and being "PC", I think you need to get off your high horse and learn a few lessons, college boy. its a big world out there, a world where people are responsible directly for their actions. read it and learn it - they'll be a test later.

Kudos to those of you who read what I said and at least put a note to self in the back of their mind.

DrexelTim
10-06-2003, 02:52 PM
I think you need to see and understand where your bread is buttered. The student activity fee money is DREXEL'S money. And you will receive as much of it as they deem you are worthy of receiving.

Sorry, perhaps you didn't understand when I explained it the first time. The money is not controlled by the University. The university does not control how the money is distributed, nor can it simply take money away from SAFAC. The President of the University could not wave his hand or sign a letter and have the DacPac's funding revoked. Also, capitalizing the word "Drexel" does not alter reality in your favor my friend.


I think you need to get off your high horse and learn a few lessons, college boy. its a big world out there, a world where people are responsible directly for their actions. read it and learn it - they'll be a test later.

Ouch, College boy. What a stinging remark on a message board concerning College Sports, in a conversation about College Basketball. Of course will live in a world of action and reaction. The DacPac yelling very loudly creates an atmosphere where players who choke, i.e. Choke Callahan, choke. This benefits the Dragons. Action, reaction.

NOTE TO SELF: Continue to call jski1977 a communist. The joke enrages him to the point where his arguments are now also illogical not simply irrational.

DUfunnyman
10-06-2003, 02:53 PM
I read and respect what you said, jski....however, my initial question was never answered.

Is it just the word "chokes" that is causing the problem? I can easily change "choked" to "missed", and the message sounds alot different.

DrexelTim
10-06-2003, 03:02 PM
I don't understand the logic behind this. Of course you don't want to be overly offensive. There is no need or any reason to ever use inappropriate language or anything like that ever. BUT, you should ask some Drexel's students if they find the word "choke" offensive.

The website should try to motivate other Drexel students to join the organization, not make opposing fans want to join.

jski1977
10-06-2003, 03:27 PM
Tim,

Your student funding organization regulates the funding handed out to DACPACK. The University regulates the student funding organization. Thus the University regulates the DACPACK. With your logic, if my boss wanted to give me a raise, and his boss said, nope, no money for a raise, I'd still get a raise. Life doesnt work like that. The University runs the show.

And maybe I am reading a little bit too far past you saying that CC "choked". While I still think that your focus in your opening statements on the site are poorly placed and make you look like jack@sses - I think this statement is somwhat of a commentary about the way a few of you might view your student organization and its importance. Ask yourself why you guys exist. Do you exist so that opposing teams "choke"? Or do you exist to give Drexel the best home court advantage they can possibly have. And your website should be informational - I dont think it should be viewed as a solicitation to get people to join. Thats what you guys handing out flyers and sitting at card tables for 2 hours on a Thursday night when Cavanaugh's is offering $1 drafts are for.

And Tim, my boy, what do you know about Communism? What exactly is Communism? Have you taken your 9th Grade Civics class yet? If you're not quite sure what it is, I'll meet you at that ugly brick building at the SW corner of 33rd and Market and we can do some research.

Whether Drexel students think the word is offensive, or anyone thinks the word is offensive isnt the point. Its not an offensive word - but it shows a lack of class and a real lack of scope. And in my opinion, probably shows that there are a number of you who just want to say you made someone miss a foul shot as opposed to saying that your impact assisted in a Drexel victory. And rest assured, if as a funded student organization, you guys show a lack of class, your funding will be cut off and you will no longer have an organization. And if thats communism, well, then I am a communist.

DrexelTim
10-06-2003, 04:18 PM
Your student funding organization regulates the funding handed out to DACPACK. The University regulates the student funding organization. Thus the University regulates the DACPACK. With your logic, if my boss wanted to give me a raise, and his boss said, nope, no money for a raise, I'd still get a raise. Life doesn't work like that. The University runs the show.

Your wrong again. I'll explain this again, though since you obviously attended Drexel and were a member, and treasurer, and president of several organizations, you should be aware of how the process works.

Each Drexel student is charged a set amount, a separate line item then their tuition and room/board line items. That money goes directly into the SAFAC account. SAFAC is composed entirely of students. SAFAC runs its own process to fill its vacancies if there are any. The Student Government, which runs its own elections and receives its funding from SAFAC, can remove a member from SAFAC if needed, but not appoint one.

Student organizations submit a request form once a year to receive their budget. This form is submitted to SAFAC, which is comprised entirely of students not selected by employees of the University. SAFAC then divides the money amongst the requesting groups. Thus short of removing SAFAC entirely, or bribing its members the University could not directly interfere with the funding of the DACPAC. That is how the process works at Drexel, I'm sorry if you don't like that.


I don't think it should be viewed as a solicitation to get people to join. That's what you guys handing out flyers and sitting at card tables for 2 hours on a Thursday night when Cavanaugh's is offering $1 drafts are for.

Great, I'm sure the DACPAC will listen and follow everyone of your suggestions due to your membership in their organization. Perhaps they have a better way of recruiting members. Perhaps they'll send emails, or use sky-writing, and homeless guys with signs around their necks. I don't know but that their business not yours.


And Tim, my boy, what do you know about Communism?

Recent Graduate of Drexel with a Degree in Political Science. So I should know at least a little bit.


What exactly is Communism?

In theory communism is the advocacy of a classless culture/society in which private ownership has been removed and the means of production and subsistence belong to the community as a whole. Practically, though the aforementioned goals have never successfully been maintained by a nation-state.



Its not an offensive word - but it shows a lack of class and a real lack of scope

I jokingly called your a communist, just like you jokingly called our library ugly, for the following reasons.

1. One of the comparisons I made were not necessarily to the theoretical concept of communism but to the brand of Communism practiced by the Soviet Union.

2. You are suggesting that Drexel should revoke the funding of a student organization (the working labor class) if the organization does anything to defile the good name of the University (the motherland.) The Soviet Union and the Communist Party (of which more then 99% of the population of the country called themselves a member) would silence those newspapers, religious movements, etc which disagreed with the Communist platform.


. And rest assured, if as a funded student organization, you guys show a lack of class, your funding will be cut off and you will no longer have an organization. And if that's communism, well, then I am a communist.

Not true as I already outlined. Also the organization could survive without funding from SAFAC, many currently do. And yes, if you are saying that Drexel should cut off funding (which it can't do) or disband the organization simply because the DacPac does something that does not fall in lock step with Drexel thought and opinions, then you are acting like a communist. The key difference of course was that Stalin would also kill the people who disagreed with him. You of course haven't suggested that.

NOTE TO SELF: Comparing jski1977 desire to censor the DacPac to the former Soviet Unions censorship of opposing viewpoints really has him upset. So much so that he has called a long, involved, and unnecessarily complicated joke on my part, which is based around a theory of political thought, as low-class. I wonder what he might say about a joke where I made fun of how funny a building looks.

jski1977
10-06-2003, 05:17 PM
Note to self: There is a fine line between law and Political Science. In layman's terms, at least $100,000 a year.

Tim, If the Drexel administration wanted to do away with the SAFAC, they could do so. And while giving "power" students sounds great...that power can and will only go so far. Ask the poor rising seniors who lost their shot at playsing baseball this coming season. Or wait, can the SAFAC save them too?

Look, I'm not going to get into this any further...but i will ask this. if you have a degree, why the hell dont you move on with your life instead of running a student organization?

Obviously you are some angst ridden, power for the people, fifth ammendment quoting kid who thinks that what he learned in a book last year is the end all...

And look at your profile Tim...whats wrong with you? "Not from Delaware" and that business about Delaware selling hats and jackets? Why can't you just give it up and look yourself in the mirror instead of worrying about what Craig Callahan and Delaware are doing. What can you possibly gain by trashing Delaware the way that you do? Having alumni that actually cares about their team shpuldnt give you grounds to trash them, should it?

DUKev
10-06-2003, 05:56 PM
I read and respect what you said, jski....however, my initial question was never answered.

Is it just the word "chokes" that is causing the problem? I can easily change "choked" to "missed", and the message sounds alot different.don't change anything. anybody who gets offended by the word "choke" should go roll around in barbed wire with magic johnson. :twisted:

DrexelTim
10-06-2003, 06:03 PM
Tim, If the Drexel administration wanted to do away with the SAFAC, they could do so

I'm sure they could they just couldn't take away their funding.


Ask the poor rising seniors who lost their shot at playsing baseball this coming season.

Baseball is a sport, not a student organization. Different funding sources. Why not ask the state of vermont to pay off the national debt.


if you have a degree, why the hell dont you move on with your life instead of running a student organization?

I don't run a student organization? What are you talking about? I'm an alumni and a Dragons fan, just like a ton of people on here. I use to run several when I was in school, thus the pratical knowledge I have which applies to the incorrect comments you made. You on the other have no practical knowledge as to how this stuff works at Drexel. Practical knowledge=real life experience. Plus you are the one suggesting how they should recruit people. You are the one suggesting how they run their webpage. Take a look in the mirror Comrade. Whats good enough for Moscow is good enough for the Gulag.


Obviously you are some angst ridden, power for the people, fifth ammendment quoting kid who thinks that what he learned in a book last year is the end all...

Ohh scary, are you going to silence me now? Shut down this whole operation which might not reflect well on something, somewhere.


And look at your profile Tim...whats wrong with you? "Not from Delaware" and that business about Delaware selling hats and jackets? Why can't you just give it up and look yourself in the mirror instead of worrying about what Craig Callahan and Delaware are doing. What can you possibly gain by trashing Delaware the way that you do? Having alumni that actually cares about their team shpuldnt give you grounds to trash them, should it?

It's a joke. J-o-k-e. Are you aware of what that is? Though it does make sense. I can't really imagine Stalin having a big belly laugh either.

jski1977
10-06-2003, 06:28 PM
Alright, I apologize - I thouight you were stating that you were the treasurer, president and whatever else of the DACPACK. Turns out you are just someone who chimed in and offered their opinion when I made a statement to those individuals who are actually running this organization, and also making them look bad by being so beligerant.

The University normally sets the tuition, and all costs associated with attending college. Including student fees, which exist at pretty much every school. Drexel not being odd or different in any way. So, if Drexel wanted to drop student fees from the equation, I'd appear to me that the SAFAC would have their lifelines cut.

It seems as if you life is overrideen by jokes. Perhaps, because you are one yourself.

DrexelTim
10-06-2003, 06:34 PM
Alright, I apologize - I thouight you were stating that you were the treasurer, president and whatever else of the DACPACK. Turns out you are just someone who chimed in and offered their opinion when I made a statement to those individuals who are actually running this organization, and also making them look bad by being so beligerant.

Thanks for the apology, your a real stand up guy. Just trying to help you out since you don't know what your talking about.


The University normally sets the tuition, and all costs associated with attending college. Including student fees, which exist at pretty much every school. Drexel not being odd or different in any way. So, if Drexel wanted to drop student fees from the equation, I'd appear to me that the SAFAC would have their lifelines cut.

Thats true, if the DACPAC did something really horrible like use the word choke on the website, the board of trustees could assemble for an extra 5th session eliminate SAFAC and the Student activity fee from the schools bylaws and choose not to support any student organization at all. Thats quite possible.


It seems as if you life is overrideen by jokes. Perhaps, because you are one yourself.

Thats true, I'd better stop myself before I sink to the level of making a joke about the appearance of a building on say UNCW campus....wait a second......

RGS
10-06-2003, 07:09 PM
Another way to go would be to keep the word 'choke' (if you like) and not mention Callahan by name. I'm not sure how much it adds to the story mentioning him by name. The key point is that is was so loud virtually anyone would have missed those shots.

hardcoredon
10-06-2003, 07:13 PM
This is too funny, all because of the word choke. I think I'm going to side with DUKev on this one. Once again, DrexelTim proves he is a true wordsmith and in a class by himself. Pretty good for a joke who can't let go of the "dream" ;)

Choke isn't offensive bottom line. If you think it makes us look classless, so be it. Sherm was also scared of us and thought we were a threat to his life. Maybe its just something in the air down there. Get rid of "choke" and you might as well get rid of saying sucks during the Hey song or the Mike Hunt stinks chants. College basketball is about having fun. I think the initial design of the website shows what an effect we can have on the game. Students want to see that, they want to be a part of that. They don't care what the JMU fans think of the word "choke". Hell, we should post this thread on there to show them the reaction to our group. They'll come out just to piss people off. I think this whole discussion can be summed up by WHO CARES.

Great job on the design DUF. Already got people badmouthing us and we are still 2-3 weeks from midnight madness!

ONIONZz
10-07-2003, 11:59 AM
AMEN to that HC.

du_dragons
10-07-2003, 02:21 PM
Hey, I'm staying out of the whole choke thing.

However, if you're interested in an example of a pretty damn good student fanclub website, check out this one (http://www.teamscarlet.com/) at Rutgers. They've obviously been in business for a while, but check out the extent to which they're involved in the Athletic Department.

hardcoredon
10-07-2003, 03:06 PM
That is a pretty nice site. One thing that I would like to see added to our site is a history of the dragon as our mascot. I found the reading about the history of Rutgers mascot pretty interesting. I know ours isn't as interesting, but I think it would be something nice to have on the site. Whether that info is around is another story.

hardcoredon
10-07-2003, 03:09 PM
Another thing I just thought of that would be nice is have is a quote from Bruiser/AD on the sites front page. That would provide some sort of validation for the group.

du_dragons
10-07-2003, 04:29 PM
Bingo. Also, that whole "Student Marketing Committee," with input into how sports on campus are advertised, promotions, etc. They obviously have a good deal of support from the school.

I don't have time to look today, but I'd imagine that some other local schools have similar things going.

RGS
10-07-2003, 10:46 PM
I'm afraid the history of the dragon isn't terribly interesting, but at least is is unique...


The dragon has been Drexel’s mascot for nearly four-score years but there appears to be no special reason for its selection other than its obvious alliterative appeal. Previous to being known as the Dragons, Drexel’s sports teams had been given a variety of monikers including the Blue & Gold, the Engineers, and the Drexelites.

One assumes that the dragon also emerged as the school’s mascot because it represents ferocity and combativeness, desirable qualities in a mascot. In addition, the dragon lends itself to eye-catching graphical representation, another useful feature.

The first published reference to the Drexel Dragons appears in a 1928 Drexel Triangle article on the football team. By January of 1929, the Triangle was applying the term “Dragonsâ € to the basketball team as well. A dragon logo appears on the jerseys of the men’s basketball team in the 1929 Lexerd.



http://www.library.drexel.edu/news/0305/archives.html

Fan of the Year
10-08-2003, 12:00 AM
Wow good find. I like that old pic. I've actually seen some old Drexel football programs on ebay a couple times and thought about buying them.

du_dragons
10-08-2003, 10:42 AM
You've got to contact the library and get that on your website page! Great find!

There are tons of old Lexerds and Triangles at the Library and in Creese that you could probably scan for some more "history" and spirit stuff.

JonP
10-09-2003, 12:00 AM
Go Drexelites!

(Just testing it out. Doesn't work at all.)

TJ Reaper
10-09-2003, 08:15 AM
What about Drexans!! I like that personally.....

KenHen
10-09-2003, 06:11 PM
I just want to wish you guys the best of luck with your site. With the determination and ethusiasm that you have shown with the DacPack I am sure that it will be a success. A thought, interview Timer, he is a wealth of knowledge about Drexel.

Timer
10-09-2003, 07:19 PM
I just want to wish you guys the best of luck with your site. With the determination and ethusiasm that you have shown with the DacPack I am sure that it will be a success. A thought, interview Timer, he is a wealth of knowledge about Drexel.

Yeah, Ken, but at my age I've forgotten most of it! :shock:

Dr. Exel
10-17-2003, 09:52 AM
Who re-did the page, it looks good!

jenkins
10-17-2003, 11:18 AM
My favorite section of the web page is the news section. There is a lot of news on there.

news news news news news news news news news news news news news news news news news news news news news news

In fact, there are 22 of them.

hardcoredon
10-17-2003, 11:28 AM
Yeah the new frontpage looks awesome! As soon as we get the other links up and running we will be in great shape. Good job to whoever did it. I just hope we don't cave in to the whole "choke" issue.

Fan of the Year
10-17-2003, 11:43 AM
We need to get DAC Pack spelled right on the side link.

DUfunnyman
10-17-2003, 03:48 PM
new website location at: http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~dsodacp/index.htm

My lil bro, Minkis, told me he updated it today

dukaholic
10-17-2003, 04:41 PM
The new design/background are WAY more aesthetically pleasing than the old page.

The Gold definitely seems to be a signature of the DAC PAC, as it's a bit much for any other site to use as a background - but with you guys, and your shirts (I believe those were gold, right?) it just seems to be an identity for your club. Loud and obnoxious :D

You guys may want to be more consistent with the DAC Pack, or DAC PAC, or whatever you guys call it though...maybe it's just a typo in the menu on the left.

And I'm not sure, but I don't think Copyright has a "w" in it ;)

Looks good though - you guys should be able to build something special, and hopefully it will take off and become tradition - and more than just something a bunch of inspired kids decided to do for a few years.

jski1977
10-17-2003, 05:20 PM
Also, might make sense to have a player's picture that is actually on this year's roster.

Copyright does not have a w in it. The only wright that is spelled with a w is the one that is someone's last name.

Good luck with this though - and have fun with it.

hardcoredon
10-17-2003, 06:36 PM
it just seems to be an identity for your club. Loud and obnoxious


Amen to that :)

DUKev
10-17-2003, 08:10 PM
Also, might make sense to have a player's picture that is actually on this year's roster.

Copyright does not have a w in it. The only wright that is spelled with a w is the one that is someone's last name.

Good luck with this though - and have fun with it.you're absolutely wright

Timer
10-18-2003, 09:15 PM
you're absolutely wright

Jay?

DUfunnyman
10-21-2003, 04:25 PM
The "Pictures" link and a link to the Drexel Forum here is updated on the site as of 10/21/03 at 4PM

http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~dsodacp/pictures.htm

Oneway
10-21-2003, 04:56 PM
I just love how close to the action you guys are. It's definitely intimidating for opposing player.

Fan of the Year
10-21-2003, 08:12 PM
I'm getting all looped around here. I started here then linked to our webpage and went to the message board link and ended up back here.

hardcoredon
10-21-2003, 08:17 PM
I just love how close to the action you guys are. It's definitely intimidating for opposing player.

Hopefully when designing the new place, they keep that in mind and put the students somewhat close at one end of the court.

BradMan
10-21-2003, 09:47 PM
Great job guys....and really good idea! Hope it gains some enthusiasum for you team!

Just one question though..who are all those ugly guys wearing yellow shirts? :P

Anyone promoting the site and the DacPack on campus? Always great to have really dedicated fans...good luck to ya.

DUfunnyman
10-22-2003, 11:52 AM
The "Schedule" link is now also active.

DUKev
10-23-2003, 10:36 AM
ok we now have http://www.dacpack.com. i'm the one who is supposed be taking care of this site from now on, so if you guys have any ideas of stuff you would like added, please send them to my PM.

when i get home from work i have to add a few things - the season preview, women's schedule, more pictures (i think thats it)

i'm going to come up with a new design once i get some time from school and work. i wanted to make it cleaner & more organized looking... it will be easier for me to work with that way. this is the kind of work i do at my job so it shouldn't take too long. the current site should be around for a few weeks though.

hardcoredon
10-23-2003, 11:27 AM
That's great that we got dacpack.com. Good job Kev. That is a much easier address to use rather than the one that Drexel gives you.

DUKev
10-23-2003, 10:31 PM
bunch of new stuff added- season preview, "what is", events, womens schedule, blah blah blah time for food

DUfunnyman
10-24-2003, 10:29 AM
Nicely done.

hardcoredon
10-24-2003, 11:50 AM
Looks great. Nice touch with the events section.

DUfunnyman
10-25-2003, 09:40 PM
Damn Kevin, the site looks really good. Great job.

bluehenbillk
10-31-2003, 04:24 PM
It does? On the front page it says Abner's Cheesestreaks & proud sponser.

P.S. Who do you guys play tomorrow?

Fan of the Year
10-31-2003, 05:30 PM
I forget who we play tomorrow, but they are probably better than West Chester. :lol: The website will be getting a huge upgrade in a week or so.

DUKev
10-31-2003, 06:56 PM
It does? On the front page it says Abner's Cheesestreaks & proud sponser.

P.S. Who do you guys play tomorrow?it does? i don't know what you're talking about... 8)

hardcoredon
10-31-2003, 07:17 PM
Beats the hell out of Blue Hen fever. Sounds like something an old person catches.

Halftime Hero
11-03-2003, 10:05 AM
I had Blue Hen Fever once, I kept having these hallucinations that Mo Sessoms was a ball player.

Btw, i may miss that guy even more than Jesse. There aren't many guys left to really get on this year.

hardcoredon
11-03-2003, 11:33 AM
I had Blue Hen Fever once, I kept having these hallucinations that Mo Sessoms was a ball player.

LOL, that is one of the funniest things I've read in a while. Blue Hen Fever must also make you believe that I-AA football is "big time".

UDPat
11-03-2003, 11:57 AM
Just remember that nothing happeneing football team of ours brings in more $$$$$$$$ and recognition for our school than your bball team does for your school. :lol: :lol:

Let's see what name is more known thur out the country..........Malik Rose or Rich Gannon. BTW I love Malik but let's be real guys.

Only those without rip those with.


UDPat

Fan of the Year
11-03-2003, 12:01 PM
Rich who? Isn't that the washed up QB the Raiders have? :D

hardcoredon
11-03-2003, 12:21 PM
Old Rich had a wonderful superbowl. Talk about falling apart. Yeah, they can't stop talking about how Rich is old, washed up, lost it, terrible. Great press!

Malik gets it done in championships, period.


Only those without rip those with

Is that why bluehenbillk came over and ripped the DAC PACK webpage? God knows that student support at UD basketball games is pretty bad.

UDPat
11-03-2003, 01:02 PM
How did your football team do this past weekend?? When was the last time they beat a team with a very good shot of going to a bowl game?

What are your predictions for Drexel baseball this year??


And the 64,000 dollar question when was the last time Drexel beat Delaware in post season hoops??? Were any of you even born??? :lol:

FOTY .... Get it right ..... He's hurt.


Again a allpro QB and league MVP vs a very nice role player in the NBA. I hate ripping Malik and I'm not but I saw him play in college more than 95% of all Drexel fans ever and anyone in the DAC PAC.


It's full circle guys. Can't wait for this year!!!


UDPat

DrexelTim
11-03-2003, 01:12 PM
FOTY .... Get it right ..... He's hurt.


He wasn't having a very good year at all, even before he got hurt.

DrexelTim
11-03-2003, 01:14 PM
Just remember that nothing happeneing football team of ours brings in more $$$$$$$$ and recognition for our school than your bball team does for your school.

Is this big money (I assume its big due to the 8 dollar signs) in any way similar to the supposedly "big" money brought in by the hat and winter jacket sales at Basketball games?

hardcoredon
11-03-2003, 01:22 PM
Is this big money (I assume its big due to the 8 dollar signs) in any way similar to the supposedly "big" money brought in by the hat and winter jacket sales at Basketball games

Tim, you must be joking. Everyone knows that hat and winter jacket sales carry UD. Their whole school is funded that way.


How did your football team do this past weekend?? When was the last time they beat a team with a very good shot of going to a bowl game?

What are your predictions for Drexel baseball this year??


At Drexel, we only do things big time. We don't kid ourselves in believing that all of our programs are great. Therefore, we only compete where we can go big time. No small time football for us or small time in anything for that matter.

UD gets excited about beating a I-A in football. Hmmm, that would leave me to believe that I-AA is "minor league" compared to I-A football or else why get excited? No one else gets excited about beating Navy. That "great minor league" football program you got must be just wonderful :roll:

RGS
11-03-2003, 06:28 PM
I must admit I don't get the whole "Hey Drexel, how's your football team doing?" thing. Its not like we didn't know Drexel didn't have a football team before we made our college choice, so obviously its not important to us. If it was important, we would have made a different choice.

LateToTheGame
11-03-2003, 06:39 PM
I didn't realize how much I'd miss having football until I got here. It wouldn't have been enough to make me go to a different school though. Besides, my other college options also don't have football, or have bad teams.

Fan of the Year
11-03-2003, 06:39 PM
Good point RGS. I love football and would like it if we had a team. If I really cared that much though I would've gone to PSU. I do still have season tickets for I-AA football so I go to a few games a year. Also, being a huge Eagles fan and season ticket holder there causes me to care less about having a college team as well. I guess UD has to resort to the lack of a football team thing since they were swept last year in b-ball.

hardcoredon
11-03-2003, 08:26 PM
Yeah I don't get that either. Football is probably my favorite sport just ahead of college bball. Being from the Happy Valley area, I could've went to PSU. I didn't though for a number of reasons, the top two being it was way to close to home and the other being I was hooked on Drexel bball after seeing Malik play during a visit. I haven't regretted that decision since.

I go to PSU games, going to the Indiana game in a few weeks. If Drexel had a team would I go? Sure. Do I wish we had one? Not really. It's not like we would be I-A which is all that really interests me. I've seen the I-AA teams like Nova and UD, to Penn and Lehigh all the way down to the "college" team of St Francis (PA). I've been to D-II games too. Growing up 30 minutes from IUP, you get to a few games. It just isn't the same though. I mean they are getting hyped up about a win over Navy. NAVY. The only team that gets hyped over beating Navy is Army. Maybe its different when its actually your school, but I still don't think it make me say I'm glad my school is I-AA. Sorry.

RGS
11-03-2003, 10:03 PM
It sounds like Delaware is having an outstanding football season. Good for them. As long as they suffer miserably in basketball, I'm happy :wink:

On another note...when does http://www.dacpack.com go 'live'? Is there a way to announce/advertise new sites within Drexel? Will you track hits? It will be interesting to see if we get new posters on this forum as a result. Anyway, it looks great. Keep up the good work.

RGS
11-03-2003, 10:05 PM
oh, and I saw http://www.drexeldragons.com published on the season tickets advertising. Anyone know what the plans are for that?

Fan of the Year
11-03-2003, 10:46 PM
The new and improved DAC Pack site should be up shortly. It is a significant upgrade from the current one. I'm not sure how we are going to track hits if at all, I just write the stuff. I'm sure we'll see an increase in activity once the season gets going and hopefully new posters as well. From what I had heard the drexel athletics site was supposed to be changed this past weekend. Either I was misinformed or they are slow.

LateToTheGame
11-03-2003, 10:50 PM
Tracking hits is simple enough. I'm sure Kevin has that taken care of.

DUKev
11-04-2003, 12:38 AM
the new version of the site is up and running. hopefully it displays ok for everyone, cause my eyes are bugging out from testing it.

- right now i'm tracking hits with a free gostats.com account cause drexel's IRT staff probably won't do it for me.

- we're going to put an ad up on duparties.com, if that doesn't get us lots of visitors i don't know what will. that site gets over 1000 hits per day according to its owner.

LateToTheGame
11-04-2003, 12:51 AM
Holy crap! Kevin, the site looks great! Fantastic work!

Gorilla
11-04-2003, 03:17 AM
nice work, much classier than anything I would have put up :)

the hecklers managed to sidestep that who "school affiliation" and "fund removal" thing by turning down the offer of money from the school. so we can pretty much do what we want and decide where the line is for ourselves.

it's much easier that way... and much more fun ;) if you want to see what the money that we turned down has become, check out http://www.screaminseahawks.org for a super laugh.

UDPat
11-04-2003, 06:00 AM
Hardcore,



The CAA is big time basketball???? You have just made the biggest fool of yourself. Any argument you have ever had loses all credability. The CAA is a mid major conference. Thats all. I love the CAA and support it. I guess if it's the only game in town for your school, I'd call it big time also. Yeah it's D1 but really only in name. Whatever you guys are smokin send a bag south so I can become as clueless as you guys.

If you guys had football you'd support it. Just like 20,000+ geritol freaks at UD stadium every week that would take their canes and whup the sh!t out of you guys!!! :lol:

CAA = Big Time, Than 1-AA football is Big Time. HaHaHaha

Nobody had a response to my post season comment. Because there is none. Since 92, UD 4-0 in post season vs Drexel and that includes 3 absolute a$$ whippings and one win at the mighty DAC.

Gonna be a good year.


UDPat

UDPat
11-04-2003, 06:06 AM
Guess who's coming to the BOB this year for the 2nd time in 3 yrs. Yep St. Joe's. We don't need to build it for them to come. LaSalle, Nova and Penn all have come to the BOB. UUUMMMMM I'd think BIG TIME schools could get big time schools to come play at their place? And don't kid yourselves about them being scared about playing in the DAC or your PAC. These schools have seen it all and quite frankly playing at the DAC offers nothing. No $$$ No nothing.


UDPat

RGS
11-04-2003, 07:57 AM
Its special to play in the Palestra...with or without a new arena, I would expect to continue to play Big 5 games there.

DrexPhanatic
11-04-2003, 08:19 AM
absolutely fantastic job to all of those involved in revamping dacpack.com -- its really better than i even could have imagined. 8)

i can't wait for the season to start...and to totally annihilate the Blue Hens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DELAWARE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!

Dr. Exel
11-04-2003, 09:54 AM
RGS, we are trying to take care of a few minor bugs and then the site will be up. We are looking at the start of the regular season to have it up and running.

dukaholic
11-04-2003, 10:37 AM
Nice sharp and clean design.

Knowing you guys as I do (and it's not well) I kinda thought the obnoxious look was the right way to go. This is definitely sharp and professional.

Best of luck with the DAC Pack though, it's really great that you guys are making it happen. Hope you get some younger kids who want to be leaders, and ensure that hte DAC Pack is there to stay.

hardcoredon
11-04-2003, 10:37 AM
Let me restate what I meant by bigtime. By bigtime, I mean D-I. In the end, we get to play for national championships at the highest level in all of our sports. At UD, they don't. Even though I'm against the BCS crap they pull in I-A and would prefer a playoff, I doubt I'm going to see UD vs Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl. However, it is possible to see Drexel vs Syracuse in the NCAA bball championship. Mid major conference no doubt, but it is big time basketball. And before you start typing your crap about NCAA doesn't recognize I-A championships blah, blah, blah, tell that to the rest of the country who does.

Man, I'm glad basketball season is here :)

Great job on the site Kev, man that looks amazing! A classy sight for classless fans :)

Halftime Hero
11-04-2003, 11:44 AM
What bowl contender did UD beat??? And what BOWL were they contending for exactly?? I think the UD ppl have a little chip on their shoulder b/c we had to earn our admission into Drexel while they all just went to a local Delaware high school and "graduated into college"... I'll give you Rich Gannon as being much bigger of a star than Malik, although it took Rich like 10 years in the league before anyone even knew his name and now its about time he retired, he did have 2 good years in the sun though. btw, Malik has 2 rings.

Timer
11-04-2003, 11:46 AM
Nice job on the website, guys!!

Suggestions? Put in an announcement about the Exhibition games since they're not on the schedule?

Tuesday, November 11th for the Women (Luxembourg, I believe)
MOnday, November 17th for the Men (USDBL?)

UDPat
11-04-2003, 12:11 PM
Halftime,


NAVY is the team. Currently 6-3 with 3 games left. One against ND and a a Eastern, Central, Western Michigan one of them and Army. 8-4 and Navy goes to bowl game. They have rapid fans that will travel.

Hardcore your lame agrument about not having football means they spend more on other sports and hoops at Drexel is a$$inine. It's pretty obvious Drexel doesn't spend more cause they don't have it to spend. You don't drop programs left and right to spend more on other teams(ie hoops) you drop programs cause you don't have the money period.


What sport ar Drexel makes money for athletics??

Don't be bragging about what a hard school Drexel is to get in. The last coop we had (since Nick T.) should have been fired. He was the laziest ,dumbest dope of a coop I've ever seen. We usually take all coops back a second time, we told this guy don't let the door hit your a$$ on the way out. This guy was a absolute embarassment to Drexel. I know he's only one. I knew this guy was no good when I asked if he was a Dac Pac guy.... he said thats the last thing he'd ever be involved in. Thats all I needed to know. :wink:



UDPat

hardcoredon
11-04-2003, 12:33 PM
He was the laziest ,dumbest dope of a coop I've ever seen.

Yeah, that about sums him up. Sometimes I wonder how he graduated. For every one of him, there are 30-40 of us, at least smarts wise. Still working on the involvement part of things, not that UD has any reason to brag about their student involvement.

I'd like to know how my arguement doesn't make sense. Where is the money that went to baseball and vball going to go? Its gotta go somewhere. Its not like those sports were sustaining themselves by selling tons of hats and winter jackets. The money has to go somewhere, Pat. Where's it going to go?

KenHen
11-04-2003, 12:36 PM
There are winners and losers at every school. Pat has a good point. For my money the guys in the DacPack are the winners, those who turn their nose up at them are the losers.

Graduating from a high school in Delaware does not mean the University has to accept you, now Delaware State or Wilmington College just might take anyone who can walk in the door. :D

DrexPhanatic
11-04-2003, 12:40 PM
haha...delaware state -- now there is an awful school!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

DrexelTim
11-04-2003, 12:45 PM
We usually take all coops back a second time, we told this guy don't let the door hit your a$$ on the way out. This guy was a absolute embarrassment to Drexel.

So everyone except is so good you bring them back again. But one guy isn't, thus because say 9 great people get in and one bad one slips through Drexel's admission standards suck? Wrong, your reasoning sucks

hardcoredon
11-04-2003, 12:53 PM
There are winners and losers at every school.

You got that right Ken. I've seen my share of losers during my stay at Drexel. I don't crack on UD academics, the one thing I won't crack on,
because they have a very good program for my major, chem eng. They were one of the schools I was looking at, but wtf is a blue hen? :) I can't go to a school with such a wussy mascot.

What's going on over on the UD board? I know you guys are having a great football season, but there is no bball talk at all. Any word on how the team looks so far? I'm curious as to how bad we are going to beat you this year.

KenHen
11-04-2003, 01:24 PM
I will let you know something Thursday. The first exhibition is Wednesday night. We have a lot of new players, mostly big men who are supposed to be agile and athletic. I am still with the two year plan, that we should have a serious contender next year, Slattery's senior year if some of these young kids come through. Fan of The Year knows what I am talking about, in that he saw Slattery at Germantown Academy when he was a Senior with some athletic big men.

How are you guys looking this year, you still have my favorite coach(did I say that) in the league. I have a very good friend, former coach of a state championship team in high school, who has always said that Bruiser Flint gets the most out of his players and how much they bust their collective butts for him.

Hope to see you guys this year.

LateToTheGame
11-04-2003, 01:30 PM
I feel the same way about Drexel, KenHen. Even though I'm excited for our chances this year (predicting us to finish 3rd or 4th), I'm even more pumped up for what we can accomplish next year. We will have some good seniors mixed in with some talented youth in '04-'05 and will be more than happy to wipe the floor with Slattery and the rest of your boys. :)

Fan of the Year
11-04-2003, 02:41 PM
Yeah, we are really another year away as well. Looks like we're on a collision course. Whitworth is our only senior this year. It's a tough spot for me being a senior and wanting them to win it this year.

hardcoredon
11-04-2003, 03:12 PM
I have to agree with everyone else. We are probably a year away from seriously contending. I do think we are going to surprise some people this year. Seems that everyone has already written us off.

I was at the Coaches vs Cancer practice but it was hard to judge anything from there. My little report is in one of these threads. Sanchez is going to be a monster. I've never seen anyone go 150% all the time like he does. If that work ethic rubs off on some of the other players, we will be in amazing shape.

UDPat
11-05-2003, 05:54 AM
Guys read my post again...


I said it was only ONE coop. I've said before most coops we've had have been very good and ONE of the few HOT Drexel girls even coop for us a couple of years ago.

Hardcore .... I'm glad all Drexel teams can now say "Supersize" after a game when they go to Micky D's.. Cause by elminating those two sports, thats about all Drexel athletics have saved. Thats my point , they is no big cash whirlwind now that you dropped two sports.


UDPat

hardcoredon
11-05-2003, 01:49 PM
we've had have been very good and ONE of the few HOT Drexel girls even coop for us a couple of years ago.


Know we know you are lying :)