Nova fans Predicting 30 - 0 for '03 through '04....

[RadMann]

Check out the VU football message board. They are now predicting 30 - 0 for '03 through '04. I knew those guys were arrogant, but this is even worse than usual.

http://villanova.rivals.com/

[Derb]

Wow, they really don't know much do they? They will probably beat either us or UMass, but I'll be shocked if they beat both.

[haiku joe]

That's a pretty ballsy statement to make. In this conference, least of all, they should know better. Oh well, so much for respecting your opponents. Somebody do the Dutchmen a favor and knock them down a peg!

[HardcoreHen]

Who's cares what a couple of bonehead Nova fans think :roll:

[bluehenbillk]

This is the kinda crap that is typical for Nova fans. For fans of other schools who claim that UD should be their biggest rival, this is exactly why UD & Nova fans detest each other so much.

Nova thinks their some tyoe of elitists & from listening to their fans they're under the assumption that the rest of the regular season is a formality.

I'll go on record right now, that Nova will have at least one loss coming into the UD game, simply because you can get beat any week in the A-10 if you don't come to play.

I can't worry about the Hens-Mildcats game yet, it's so far away, injuries can play a factor, and the team's strengths/weaknesses may change throughout the year.

It's only fitting that we play this as the last regular-season game every year, this year it may just be for the A-10 crown.

GO HENS!!! (even though I'm not crowing we're going to winn the NC for the next 2 years plus go undefeated while doing it).

P.S. I guess I have to give Nova some credit, they had 11,800 at the NE game, even though that's barely over 1/2 what we get every week.

[jski1977]

God I hate Villanova...everything about them.

I would be so happy if my Dukes went in there and stole one from them on Saturday. I dont think it will hapen, but here's to hoping.

[henfan]

I'll second that, jski. My second favorite team in the A-10 needs to lay some wood on the Kitties this Saturday.

[boozeANDammo]

...and I too hope we steal... wait a sec, no I don't. :x I hope we go in there and knock their blocks off! :twisted:

Alas, if we don't do it, I sure in the hell hope MY second favorite team in the A-10 does! Word. :twisted:

'Nova. 30 and 0 my hariy as... :P :wink:

[jski1977]

Whether we do it or not...I will be there to see my second favorite team in the A-10 do it! Are there enough seats in Villanova Stadium for everyone to cheer on the Hens? Too bad Madison is another three hours away:(

Go JMU, Go UD!!!

[mainejeff]

Wait until the Cats have to play the Black Bears in Orono on Nov.15th :lol: :lol: :lol: .

[henfan]

Maine on Alfond's frozen tundra and then Delaware back to back. Ouch! If 'Nova wins both of those games, they can start talking about the playoffs in earnest. It's not wise to do so before then, IMO.

[jski1977]

By the time Nov 15 comes along, Villanova fans wont be talking football anymore anyway. They'll be talking about their basketball team and their calling card exploits.

Those stiffs are playing two or three D-III teams to start their season just so that they don't lose to real live D-1 teams. I'd LOVE to see University of the Redlands beat them by 20 pts!

[DEdave]

Wait a minute, you went on their own board and are making a flap over what some of their own students have typed? Wow, our own fans would never do that type of thing. :wink: Did they come on this board to proclaim this? Let's hope they don't read this board. Why stir the pot well before a game that might just determine our own playoff future? A game that's 7 weeks away? I say let sleeping dogs lay.

Uh, jski, those "stiffs" just grabbed Delaware's highest b-ball prospect and are fielding a team of mostly sophomores. I'll take those "stiffs" over any team fielded in our CAA. If they don't lose 2 or 3 to the NBA in the next 2 years they'll certainly have a shot at the Sweet 16. I'd gladly trade that for what non-stiffs we have in the CAA.

[foghorn]

DEDave, why not stir the pot? That's what rivalries are for. Do I detect a little empathy towards the Vile-nova fans? Maybe you should call yourself DE Benedict, as in Arnold. Go Hens! BTW, I wouldn't trade VU's "stiffs" for CAA "non-stiffs" either. Go Hens, beat the "mildcats"!

[DEdave]

Or Fogbrain. I like that label better. :P

[jski1977]

What Villanova is doing is an absolute joke. Trying to get Temple to move their game so that their violators can play. Please. And then sliding in a few games against Little Sisters of the Poor just so that they don't get knocked off in their preseason holiday tournament. I have a solution - how about keeping the calling cards away from the players. This is nothing new at Villanova - you might remember 6 or so years ago when Kerry Kittles got busted for using an alumni supplied calling card.

No need to defend them...or that university. At any cost.

May every university, UD, JMU or otherwise whip up on Villanova for years to come.

[henfan]

Here ye, jski. Villianova. Let's get the spelling right to match the basketball program's deeds. From breaking up the Big 5 through the phone card scandal of 2003, there's really very little to like about them. :P
(Let's not forget the shady deal with Tim Thomas & his agent!)

Anybody who'd let their kid go to a school that once idolized looney John DuPont, well, that's just bad parenting. :lol:

[DEdave]

Let's just correct something here. There were NO calling cards involved. Throw darts if you must, but get your facts straight.

GO HENS!

[jski1977]

Dave, what are you, a member of the Block V Club? For crying out loud...

Alright, there WERE calling cards invloved in the Kittles scandal, these were essentially phone access codes - i.e. players stole the codes and ran up phone calls that were charged to what seemingly must have been a university account. Its the same concept - there just wasnt any plastic card.

And its just like Villanova to accept millions of dollars from a homosexual, pedophillistic molester like John duPont (no matter what they will say now - they KNEW what they were getting into) and then act horrified when the curtain comes down on him.

Dave, since you are a member of the Block V Club, why don't you tell us all why Villanova's Wrestling program was built as soon as John E. duPont donated a huge chunk of change and then withered a few short years later? How about an hush-hush internal investigation into sexual misconduct...

Howard Porter started the chain...Rollie Massimino continued it with shattering the Big 5...then it was John duPont...then the Kittles scandal...now this...whats next?

Maybe the university will purchase enough indulgences so that the administration isnt stuck saying Hail Marys for the rest of the university's existance!

[DEdave]

This isn't the place to discuss the chip on your shoulder about another school. This is UD's site.

[jski1977]

LOL You're too much.

[bluehenbillk]

I'll agree with jski1977 on this one. I hate to turn on one of my own but DE Dave, you need to crawl back into your hole. As a UD fan there's gotta be at least something about Villanova that makes your stomach grumble.

Villanova fans & alums are some of the most cocky, arrogant, pompous, snobbish, wanna-be elitists that you'll ever meet. It boggles my mind that a diehard UD fan would stick up for them & their pompousity. Yea, they were D-1 football 20-some years ago, & we beat them then, & they won a NCAA hoops tournament 18 years ago. Since, in terms of hoops they've been pretty disappointing when it comes tourney time(hmm..ODU rings a bell).

I kind of laugh when I hear this 30-0 crap but the source doesn't surprise me. They'll be plenty to talk about the week of 11/22, but for right now all I care about is W&M.

GO HENS!!!

[DEdave]

Thanks. That chip making you walk in circles?
On to other issues...as in, again, why not let sleeping dogs lie?

[AbsolutBlueHen]

Because that dog is too busy licking itself.

[DEdave]

Bill- With that attitude I'm positive I wouldn't want ya protecting my back anyway. Get real.

[jski1977]

Whoa, I'm not trying to start anything back up here, but what did Bill say that was inaccurate? Perceptions and stereotypes are often in place for a reason - and what Bill said about the Villanova student or Villanova alum is right on board. THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE BELIEVE, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE EXPERIENCE!!!

And I wonder what the Villanova folks will be saying about you guys in a few weeks, or us this week. Lowly schools...they actually accept funds from the state. WE earned our fortunes...

And I guess they are right? Delaware and JMU are pond scum? I know one thing - I didnt have to pay $35,000 a year for MY education, and I'm not doing so bad!

[Derb]

Here's I know aobut "Nova from personal experience.

1) Thier fans will steal $2000+ of colorguard eqipment from a visiting marching band.

2) When a nearly 300 person band visits they will give that band EXACTLY the same number of seats as there are people in the band even the stadium is 1/3 empty.

3) When it is about 90 degrees with no shade around 'Nova will force said band wearing 100% wool uniforms to buy water rather than give us cups and hose to fill some water jugs that were brought by said band even though several people were on the verge of passing out due to the heat and lack of water.


4) When a pep band comes for an NIT game they will stick said band up in the rafters even though there are 3 comepletely empty sections closer to the floor and don't have half the view blocked by a 2nd scoreboard.

5) When 2 UD students show up at a basketball game their ticket office will sell them 2 tickets stuck up in the very top row of thier arena when the entire rest of the section is empty and then expect you to actually sit there.

[RadMann]

VU is a decent school, but it is no Ivy League institution. Any "arrogance" that they might have is misplaced in my opinion.I think the main thing that drives their attitude if that is the right word for it was their very surprising NCAA BBall championship a ways back. They were very fortunate to win that championship then, and it would be an even less likely victory today. The big state universities control the college basketball game today much more than they did then.

I occasionally read their board, and they like to refer to Delawareans as chicken farmers and such terms. The funny thing to me is that they consider the term "farmer" to be an insult. To be honest, I live on a decent sized piece of land, but I can't afford to be a farmer. The farmer who rents my fields to grow his crops has the life. I have to work in an office everyday ...

[UNH_Alum_In_CT]

What is it with these Catholic schools? We see the same "attitude" from Boston College and Holy Cross up here in New England. Even from Fairfield who came up with some lame excuse not to play in an annual CT Hoop Tournament with Hartford, Central CT and Yale! Do you see the same attitude from St. Joe's and LaSalle?

[RadMann]

Not sure about those schools, but Drexel fans are just pains in the a$$...lol I think many of them feel the same about VU....

I don't think the attitude comes from the religious nature of the schools as much as that they are private institutions. Many Lehigh folks are similar. I've spoken about this before, but many people who attend/attended private institutions need to find a reason to justify why they paid so much when they could obtain a very similar education at a state school. As most people know, the core academic majors at many of the state universities are as competitive or more so than places such as VU, Lehigh, etc.... Anyway, it is very amusing....

[jski1977]

Boston College students and alums are cut from the exact same cloth that Villanova students and alums are cut from. Since I have been repremanded by one poster for my comments I wont get into it any further (as I was told, this is a UD board). But many of you guys see eye to eye with me, so you know exactly what I mean.

St Joe and LaSalle get a different kid of kid, UNH. While St Joe isnt necessarily in a bad area, its still not a place a Johnny MacElitist would have an interest in going. And probably not a place Mr and Mrs MacElitist would want to send their silver spoon-fed prince. LaSalle is flat out scary after dark. No matter who you are or where you come from. These schools, while they are Catholic, are mainly attended by kids that come from less affluent (don't read this as poor) parish high schools, or city parish high schools. They also have a fairly high percentage of commuters.

VERY few students at Villanova are from the immediate area - most are from north Jersey, Long Island, New England and St Mark's ;)

[mainejeff]

I can think of one reason that they pay so much to attend their private Catholic schools.......an $85 million verdict in Boston comes to mind.

[jski1977]

Now, now Jeff - this doesnt have anything to do with being Catholic itself. I for one am Catholic and while I disagree mightily with some of the outside of church issues that have caused the Catholic church to get in hot water with. However - religion is about belief rather in a story rather than whether or not you think the tellers of that story are philanderers or molesters. Though...I will say that its a bit difficult to draw that line at times.

As a poster stated a little earlier, it really doesnt have much to do with being Catholic. It has to do with the perception of what paying more money for college enables you. This elitist attitude is not just prevolant at Catholic schools like Villanova, BC and Notre Dame. It dominates conversation at non-parochial private schools like Richmond, Lehigh, Ursinus, Swarthmore and many of those tiny private schools in New England (like Bennington).

[RadMann]

... and William and Mary too....... lol.....

I agree that it is not the religion per se. All or almost all of the Ivy League schools are now or were founded as Protestant schools, and they are as elitest as heck......

[GannonFan]

Getting back to the postings, I kinda liked the one post where the guy was asking whether they could still change their out of conference opponents for next year, taking into account their presumed dominance of 1-AA. He mentioned that if they could pull in Penn St or Notre Dame then the schedule would be more befitting of a powerhouse that they are. And he wasn't sarcastic either.

[Derb]

I'd love to see ND or PSU whip up on Nova...lol

[WVUDBrendan]

They beat Temple. Is it an accomplishment for a I-AA school? Sure. Does this mean they can handle even midlevel I-A teams? Absolutely not. I completely agree with Derb that I would love you see their wish granted and see them get sufficiently pounded by either school.
The Temple game gave VU worlds of confidence, but if the team's attitude is anything like those posters, then they are in for a rude awakening. Don't think the win over NU is further confirmation of how good they are. I've said all along that NU is the most highly overrated team in the A-10, and that final score is not indicative of how close the game was until late.
VU fans think they can talk alot of trash now, but Nov. 22 will decide the conference and claiming the A-10 title before then will only make revenge that much sweeter.