Bold Prediction

[monarchmac23507]

ODU will be a top 10 team this year. Alex Loughton, however, will not be CAA POY. Dahi will. All hail Dahi because nobody else is worthy. I saw him today and he looks like he put on about 25 pounds of pure meat. Alex will be a late 1st rounder/early 2nd rounder, but in 2 years Dahi will be a lottery pick. You heard it here first. Last year, you saw the flashes of brilliance from the physical speciman. This year he breaks out.

Also, Williamson will double his scoring average.

[bigblue1975]

Be prepared. :lol:

[dstefano1]

:roll:

[billthebighawkfan]

MM,
Yea, that's great about Dahi but how does this translate? Is Dahi going to suddenly become strictly a low post player? If so, good for him and for ODU because he's definitely not a shooter and doesn't play smart, especially away from the paint. I will give it to him because he looked good at UNCW when Dejan got an iso with him and put some decent low post moves on him, Dahi didn't bite and got the better of him on that play which impressed me but let's not get too carried away. I've never been impressed with Dahi's offensive skills therefore he better put those addtional 25 lbs to work on the blocks and develop some low post moves. The kid really does have potential to be nice on the blocks but let's not go crazy here. Hey, if you does it...good for him and ODU but let's wait until they play somebody one good time. If he's calling for da ball, gettting deep position, and finishing then I'll say...yep you called that one but I ain't seeing that right now. :P

[blackout]

bill, that is the greatest avatar ever. I remeber seeing that live and calling my buddy (who was at the time a student at Maryland)

classic!

[Timbo]

how much do we all get when ODU is not a top 10 team?

[billthebighawkfan]

Thanks Blackout! It works because it looks like my son and also me. People think that it's us!!! 8)

[monarchmac23507]

MM,
Yea, that's great about Dahi but how does this translate? Is Dahi going to suddenly become strictly a low post player? If so, good for him and for ODU because he's definitely not a shooter and doesn't play smart, especially away from the paint. I will give it to him because he looked good at UNCW when Dejan got an iso with him and put some decent low post moves on him, Dahi didn't bite and got the better of him on that play which impressed me but let's not get too carried away. I've never been impressed with Dahi's offensive skills therefore he better put those addtional 25 lbs to work on the blocks and develop some low post moves. The kid really does have potential to be nice on the blocks but let's not go crazy here. Hey, if you does it...good for him and ODU but let's wait until they play somebody one good time. If he's calling for da ball, gettting deep position, and finishing then I'll say...yep you called that one but I ain't seeing that right now. :P

You are right, he is not the best perimeter player. However, I kind of like to see him drain that unexpected 3 and subsequently beat on his chest. No, seriously, I see it in the low post. He kept us in several games last year (including the Michagan State game while nursing an injury) and I really believe he puts it together this year. I honestly think he is better than Alex. Don't get me wrong though, I love Alex's game.

[billthebighawkfan]

Why the quotes? We are all friends here and can remember what was posted. MM, Dahi will NEVER be considered the player that Alex is and to even put the two players in the same sentence is ridiculous. Alex scares me in half court sets, Hunter scares me in half court sets, but Dahi doesn't. You are saying that Dahi is better than Alex but Dahi can't score the ball on his own. Let's say that Alex wasn't there, do you really think that Dahi could get the ball on the blocks or even 15 feet out and score consistently on a winner? I don't think so but I'm not a hater. I wish him the best and think he's a good player...just not a great player. Great players are obvious and their collective work ethics generally show by mid soph year. He's alright but let's keep it real here... :wink:

[gurgle274]

VT's Coleman Collins will keep Loughton in check, and all talk of ODU in the top 25 will evaporate...

[Monarch Nation]

Monarchmac, if you're trying to start a pissing match, that's not bad bait. You should get the usual gang of idiots present by Monday morning at least.

Enjoy, people. I'm staying out of this one. :roll:

[GSU Mens BB Fan]

Here is a bold prediction.






Georgia State will win the NCAA championship.





:roll:

[ODUDAD2K8]

Here is a bold prediction.






Georgia State will win the NCAA championship.





:roll:


Is that the "Not CAA" championship?

:wink: :wink:

[VRam2]

I didn't know they let patients have computers at the funny farm. :lol:

[Mr. Jablomi]

Is Dahi as good, right now, as Al? No. Does he have the tools to be as good, or better? Yes. He actually had a decent 3pt %, and is a pure specimen. He was All CAA as a soph, and will be a legit POY candidate when Al is gone.

Oh, and Tech gets their asses handed to them in Norfolk, don't kid yourself.

[TJ Reaper]

25 pounds of muscle added to his frame means very little on the basketball court. Until Dahi fully understands the game on both end of the floor, he will never be as good as Loughton. Loughton is an EXCELLENT basketball player because he is an EXCELLENT understander of the game. Dahi is a great player in ODU's chances to be a top 20 team, but he is not the reason people are picking ODU to be the best non-major out there.

For now, keep Hunter and Loughton in your prayers for no injuries. They are your ticket to the Sweet 16.

[Timbo]

Another bold prediction, ODU will win the NCAA championship, beating Duke by 50 points!

[Billy Madison]

Delaware will go 33-0 and Henderson will get a 5 year contract extension... drexel fans would love that

[ODUDAD2K8]

I didn't know they let patients have computers at the funny farm. :lol:

If this is directed at me, give me a break man. I'm just trying to pad my numbers by making inane posts.....just like you do.

:lol:

[Dukie95]

I thought you said it was a bold prediction...that's an average predection for the ODU faithful..

If you gonna be bold, you need to make it top 2, 3 tops.

[T-McGriddle]

Dahi as a Sophomore:
Named third team All-CAA...Led CAA in field goal percentage at .519...Ranked fourth in CAA in blocked shots...scored in double figures 18 times...scored a career high 20 points vs. Towson and Drexel...Scored 18 points and 11 rebounds vs. VMI...Blocked more than one shot in a game 15 times...Hauled in five offensive rebounds in back-to-back games vs. Delaware and VCU... CAA Player of the Week on Dec. 20.

Alex as a Sophomore:
First team All-CAA...First Team NABC District IV....Team MVP....CAA All-Academic selection...Athletic Director's Association All-Academic squad... scored 45 points with 15 rebounds vs. Charlotte and 24 points with 15 rebounds vs. St. Joseph's...Hauled in 16 rebounds vs. George Mason...Ranked second in CAA in rebounding and scoring...His 45 points was the most in NCAA Div. I.

Alex has been the #1 offensive option since his sophomore year. Dahi has played second fiddle as a result. I see the Loughton/Dahi years much like the old Toronto Raptors when Vince Carter was the go to guy and Tracy McGrady played the #2. Once McGrady was traded and became the #1 guy his offensive production sky-rocketed. Look for Dahi to increase his offensive production this season and to really establish himself as an inside presence his senior year when Alex is in the NBA.[quote]

[baltos]

How in the world could Dahi be a lottery pick if he can't even go up and down the floor twice without needing to come out of the game for oxygen?

[VRam2]

Hey, there have been a lot of lottery picks who averaged 8 points and 5 rebounds in CAA games. :shock: :roll:

[T-McGriddle]

Hey, there have been a lot of lottery picks who averaged 8 points and 5 rebounds in CAA games. :shock: :roll:

Cal Bowdler Sophomore stats:
5.5 ppg, 4.9 reb, 1.3 blk, 1.3 ast

Arnaud Dahi Sophomore stats:
10.4 ppg, 5.4 reb, 1.4 blk, 1.0 ast

Looks like Dahi is blowing away a recent CAA lottery pick's sophomore numbers.

[dstefano1]

Bowdler wasn't a lottery pick. The only reason he was a 1st Round pick was that Pete Babcock was still running things in Atlanta. Bowdler goes down in Babcock's brilliant draft history along with Roshown McLeod, Ed Gray, and Priest Lauderdale.

[T-McGriddle]

Whether he was a smart pick is inconsequential in this debate. The Dahi detractors are speculating that Dahi's sophomore numbers aren't good enough to warrant looks by NBA teams. The Bowdler comparison simply shows that players with much worse sophomore seasons have gone on to be first round picks.

[VRam2]

And Dahi didn't average 10 points in CAA games. His numbers fell off dramatically during CAA play.

[dukaholic]

And Dahi didn't average 10 points in CAA games. His numbers fell off dramatically during CAA play.

9.5 ppg, 5.8 rbg, 1.1 assists per game, 1.56 blocks per game, .89 steals per game.

His scoring, field goal percentage, and free throw percentage went down in CAA play. All his other numbers actually went up.

Loughton and Kiah Thomas' numbes went up in conference play. That's what experienced players do. I can see why Dahi's numbers went down a bit. And I can see him being a force down the line. If any of the young wings can play, ODU isn't really going to drop off much even after Loughton/Hunter leave.

[EverydayinVA]

Also Dahi isnt 6'10" with a nice touch from outside. Not to say Dahi doesnt have a good touch but not as good as Bowdler. I'm a big Dahi fan, but he does have a ways to go. If he keeps improving I could definitely see him putting down about 16-18 a game his senior year. I think your statement about Williamson is more accurate, not this year but by his senior year Drew will be going for 10-12 a game maybe a little more. He may be the best TRUE PG in college by then.

[billthebighawkfan]

Any time you lose an inside offensive force and a stellar offensive performer at the 2 it usually takes some time to get over. Having an inside game and an outside game is what separates ODU right now because in half court sets you have to be able to have consistent production inside and out. I really don't think that people realize the impact that Alex makes out there. He's the best player in the league and he seems like he's been there for a decade. :P
As far as Drew being the best PG in college basketball when he's a senior...WOW! that's an even bolder statement. :shock:

[EverydayinVA]

You have a good point BTBHF, Alex draws ALOT of attention and makes Dahi's life alot easier. I just hope when he finally moves on Dahi and Val can do the same for eachother.

[monarchmac23507]

Williamson actually reminds me of Jameer Nelson. If you look at Jameer's Freshman and Sophmore years, he didn't score much. He played as a true PG and Marvin O'Connor was the star scoring 20-30 ppg. We saw some of Drew's scoring potential in the CAA tournament last year and I could see him going for 20 ppg by the time his senior year is over with. Him and Dahi running the show will be sick. There is one thing Dahi can do that Alex can't: pound inside with the big boys. Alex is a finesse player and has some of the best fundamentals of any big man I know. However, he does not play well defensively against big men. I actually think Michigan State would have blown us out if Dahi could not play due to his injury last year.Alex is more consistent right now and more reliable, but Dahi can take over a game! Bow down to your master Dahi!

[Billy Madison]

Wow that is a horrible analysis comparing williamson to jameer nelson. Nelson averaged way more points, and even more assists, and def put alot more pressure on opposing teams than williamson. He is no where close to Nelson whatsoever, and will not score 20 points a game in this league. That is saying he will lead the league in scoring by his sr year. No way at all, he is a good point guard, but not a scorer at all and will def not be a jameer nelson type of player. ODU fans are very positive thinkers though ill give you guys that.

[gmutom]

ODU will be a top 10 team this year. Alex Loughton, however, will not be CAA POY. Dahi will. All hail Dahi because nobody else is worthy. I saw him today and he looks like he put on about 25 pounds of pure meat. Alex will be a late 1st rounder/early 2nd rounder, but in 2 years Dahi will be a lottery pick. You heard it here first. Last year, you saw the flashes of brilliance from the physical speciman. This year he breaks out.


Bold prediction: After monarchmac seeks much-needed help for his LSD addiction, he will never make ludicrous statements like this again. :roll:

[MarshaLee]

Williamson actually reminds me of Jameer Nelson. If you look at Jameer's Freshman and Sophmore years, he didn't score much. He played as a true PG and Marvin O'Connor was the star scoring 20-30 ppg. We saw some of Drew's scoring potential in the CAA tournament last year and I could see him going for 20 ppg by the time his senior year is over with. Him and Dahi running the show will be sick. There is one thing Dahi can do that Alex can't: pound inside with the big boys. Alex is a finesse player and has some of the best fundamentals of any big man I know. However, he does not play well defensively against big men. I actually think Michigan State would have blown us out if Dahi could not play due to his injury last year.Alex is more consistent right now and more reliable, but Dahi can take over a game! Bow down to your master Dahi!

MM,
With all due respect, I love ODU and all, but if everyone on your ODU dream team morphed into the player you think they are capable of, ODU would score 100 points a game. Dahi, will not be a lottery pick. He may turn out to be a Nick George-caliber player, and could be drafted late in the 2nd round, as could George. He will not get to truly shine until he is a senior, so only time will tell. Also, I don't think he will dominate this year. And not because of lack of skill or potential. Frankly, just becaue there is no room for that. Shoot, Alex doesn't even get the chance to put up monstrous numbers because they spread it around so much. This team has purposely put balance and winning ahead of any single player domination.

[bigblue1975]

Blahi, Your best post ever. :D

[gmutom]

MM, With all due respect, I love ODU and all, but if everyone on your ODU dream team morphed into the player you think they are capable of, ODU would score 100 points a game. Dahi, will not be a lottery pick. He may turn out to be a Nick George-caliber player, and could be drafted late in the 2nd round, as could George. He will not get to truly shine until he is a senior, so only time will tell. Also, I don't think he will dominate this year. And not because of lack of skill or potential. Frankly, just becaue there is no room for that. Shoot, Alex doesn't even get the chance to put up monstrous numbers because they spread it around so much. This team has purposely put balance and winning ahead of any single player domination.

Blahi, this could be your most intelligent post ever. Although I think Dahi and George will both go undrafted before being invited to a few NBA camps for a tryout, your post was well thought out with no hyperbole and trash-talking. I'm impressed, man. Keep it up.

Edited note: I wrote this post after bigblue's comment right above mine, which just goes to show that both of us appreciated what I can only hope is the new-and-improved Blahi. :lol:

[MarshaLee]

MM, With all due respect, I love ODU and all, but if everyone on your ODU dream team morphed into the player you think they are capable of, ODU would score 100 points a game. Dahi, will not be a lottery pick. He may turn out to be a Nick George-caliber player, and could be drafted late in the 2nd round, as could George. He will not get to truly shine until he is a senior, so only time will tell. Also, I don't think he will dominate this year. And not because of lack of skill or potential. Frankly, just becaue there is no room for that. Shoot, Alex doesn't even get the chance to put up monstrous numbers because they spread it around so much. This team has purposely put balance and winning ahead of any single player domination.

Blahi, this could be your most intelligent post ever. Although I think Dahi and George will both go undrafted before being invited to a few NBA camps for a tryout, your post was well thought out with no hyperbole and trash-talking. I'm impressed, man. Keep it up.

Let's not get carried away.

[bigblue1975]

Pretty scary Tom. :lol:

[CaryHawk]

Bold Prediction: ODU does not go to the NCAA tournament. The CAA is going to be tough this year (better than last year)and I think ODU will lose just enough games to not get an at-large bid. Somebody takes them out in the CAA tournament (it almost happened last year).

Don't get me wrong, ODU is the favorite but anything can happen in the CAA Tournament!!!

[ODU Commish]

Bold Prediction: ODU does not go to the NCAA tournament. The CAA is going to be tough this year (better than last year)and I think ODU will lose just enough games to not get an at-large bid. Somebody takes them out in the CAA tournament (it almost happened last year).

Don't get me wrong, ODU is the favorite but anything can happen in the CAA Tournament!!!

Well put Caryhawk. As much as I believe we are the favorites to win the conference championship, anything can happen during the tournament in Richmond. We could come out flat and lose the first game of the tournament. Some of these posts by my fellow ODU fans are downright outrageous.

Again, I know we are the favorite, but there are no guarantees in college basketball and particularly in this conference.

[monarchmac23507]

Bold Prediction: ODU does not go to the NCAA tournament. The CAA is going to be tough this year (better than last year)and I think ODU will lose just enough games to not get an at-large bid. Somebody takes them out in the CAA tournament (it almost happened last year).

Don't get me wrong, ODU is the favorite but anything can happen in the CAA Tournament!!!

Well put Caryhawk. As much as I believe we are the favorites to win the conference championship, anything can happen during the tournament in Richmond. We could come out flat and lose the first game of the tournament. Some of these posts by my fellow ODU fans are downright outrageous.

Again, I know we are the favorite, but there are no guarantees in college basketball and particularly in this conference.
Typical PESSIMISTIC ODU fan now agrees with the bold prediction that ODU will NOT make the NCAA tournament this year. I think that is actually more outrageous than ODU fans talking smack and helping to hype up their team. Maybe your mindset has advantages though. I guess if you expect to lose, you don't get disappointed... traitor! :roll:

[ODU Commish]

Bold Prediction: ODU does not go to the NCAA tournament. The CAA is going to be tough this year (better than last year)and I think ODU will lose just enough games to not get an at-large bid. Somebody takes them out in the CAA tournament (it almost happened last year).

Don't get me wrong, ODU is the favorite but anything can happen in the CAA Tournament!!!

Well put Caryhawk. As much as I believe we are the favorites to win the conference championship, anything can happen during the tournament in Richmond. We could come out flat and lose the first game of the tournament. Some of these posts by my fellow ODU fans are downright outrageous.

Again, I know we are the favorite, but there are no guarantees in college basketball and particularly in this conference.
Typical PESSIMISTIC ODU fan now agrees with the bold prediction that ODU will NOT make the NCAA tournament this year. I think that is actually more outrageous than ODU fans talking smack and helping to hype up their team. Maybe your mindset has advantages though. I guess if you expect to lose, you don't get disappointed... traitor! :roll:

Did you read where I said I know we are the favorite? I said there are no guarantees in this conference. I watched ODU win 25 games in Cal Bowdler's senior year and NOT make the big dance, while you were busy rooting for St. Joes. Don't tell me about being a typical pessimistic ODU fan.

I don't think your A-10 fan perspective quite understands the CAA. My point is that we have to win the CAA tournament to get an at-large bid, until proven otherwise. The A-10 gets several bids most years, the CAA DOES NOT. If we slip up one day in Richmond in March, then there is a good chance we won't be dancing.

[ODU Commish]

I think that is actually more outrageous than ODU fans talking smack and helping to hype up their team.

One more thing, "helping hype up your team" is really doing nothing more that making you look like a fool. I'm pretty sure you have been lumped in with masonfan and p8forlife at this point. Do you think those guys are outrageous, or do they sound great spouting off all of that nonsense about GMU?

[Mr. Jablomi]

I think the world of Drew Williamson's game, he's the perfect fit for ODU right now, and IMO one of the more underrated kids to come through the CAA in quite some time. I think he'd be a benefit to just about any team in the country, as he's a natural leader, and winner.
That said, to compare him (or any other college PG) to Jameer Nelson is a little crazy. I'm a SJU fan, and have seen Nelson play a ton (including vs ODU at the Ted when Nelson beat us with a 38 footer), and kids like him don't come along very often.
The funny thing is, ODU was one of his final three, and had he come to Norfolk (with Marsh and Wright already here), we probably would have been good again, and Capel would not have been canned (and than no BT, which means no Alex/Dahi/Val, etc).

It's funny how things turned out.

[RamKnowledge]

Reality check.............

ODU was a Loughton leaner/runner, a blocking call on George, a missed baseline jumper by Reid, etc. away from not dancing in 2005.

VCU was a questionable non-charging call on Dom, a made Pellot-Rosa FT, a missed Jai Lewis jumper at the gun, etc. away from not dancing in 2004.

VCU could have very easily been the 2005 champs. Led by three with a minute remaining in the title game.
GMU could have very easily been the 2004 champs. Tied with 10 seconds remaining in the title game.

One call, one non-call, one missed shot, one made shot, etc. is all that separates that top rung in this league right now. There were numerous buzzer beater/wire jobs in conference play last year.

It's anyone's ballgame in March.

Six teams had double-digit conference wins last year. Three had 13+.

Nobody's dominated anyone in the CAA since UNCW in 2002/2003. The last two years have been tight. I suspect this year will be more of the same.

[Mr. Jablomi]

Yeah, but you're an idiot! :lol: You don't think 18-3 vs CAA competition is dominating? Hmmm...

[bigblue1975]

Reality check.............

ODU was a Loughton leaner/runner, a blocking call on George, a missed baseline jumper by Reid, etc. away from not dancing in 2005.

VCU was a questionable non-charging call on Dom, a made Pellot-Rosa FT, a missed Jai Lewis jumper at the gun, etc. away from not dancing in 2004.

VCU could have very easily been the 2005 champs. Led by three with a minute remaining in the title game.
GMU could have very easily been the 2004 champs. Tied with 10 seconds remaining in the title game.

One call, one non-call, one missed shot, one made shot, etc. is all that separates that top rung in this league right now. There were numerous buzzer beater/wire jobs in conference play last year.

It's anyone's ballgame in March.

Six teams had double-digit conference wins last year. Three had 13+.

Nobody's dominated anyone in the CAA since UNCW in 2002/2003. The last two years have been tight. I suspect this year will be more of the same.

Champions make plays. ODU did and VCU did not. :D

[DUHANK]

every silly ODU thread deserves somthing special...


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anyone hungry?

[RamKnowledge]

Winning does not necessarily equal dominating. VCU was 17-4 in the CAA in 2004; I wouldn't say we dominated. We won a lot of tight ones.

Skins are 3-0. Are they dominating? Apparently so if one follows the ODU mindset.

I'm sorry that logic and reality are lost on you................the upper echelon of the CAA was quite evenly matched last year................and will likely be again. Once again, six teams w/ double digit wins, three w/ 13+...............an OT title game. No domination. Sorry. I saw all CAA teams play live several times; little difference between the upper echelon squads. Just a bucket or two here and there...............

At least one of your faithful understands:

From ODeeYou --
Lets not go overboard.
First of all, we were picked to win the title last year, so everyone was gunning for us. We also were in first place the entire year after a fast start, so we got everyone's best shot all season long.
But that is not to say we didn't get a break or two that we hadn't seen in several years. We beat Drexel on the road when Brooks was out with an injury. Dahi threw up a wild shot to put us up by one and they missed a last second try.
Alex tossed up a three pointer against ECU that gave us a one point win. ECU also missed the last shot of the game. Hofstra too had a last second try to beat us but they didn't convert it. Towson nearly got by us at their place. And then there was the OT game in the CAA championship. Goldsberry and Slattery were not 100% in at least one of the games against their teams.
Let's face it. We were being dealt face cards all year.
What will happen this year? We'll just have to wait and see.

Sometimes it's your year to get the breaks...............other times not.




Big Blue quote:
Champions make plays. ODU did and VCU did not.


VCU has won 10 of the past 12 against ODU (including ten straight)!!!

Last 4 Years (CAA record/including CAA tourney games, post seasons, etc.):
UNCW - 60-23; 2 NCAAs, 2 CAA Finals, 1 NCAA win; 6 ESPN/CBS appearances
VCU - 58-25; 1 NCAA; 1 NIT; 3 CAA Finals; 6 ESPN/CBS appearances
Drex - 50-28; 2 NITs, 1 CAA Final; 1 ESPN appearance
GMU - 48-30; 2 NITs, 1 CAA Final; 1 ESPN appearance
ODU - 46-33; 1 NCAA, 1 CAA Final; 3 ESPN/CBS appearances

I'd say VCU (and UNCW and GMU) have made more than their fair share of "plays." ODU still has some serious "catching up" to do.


Perspective gentlemen..............perspective.

[Mr. Jablomi]

Why stop at, say, the last four years? Let's look at all of the schools' respective bodies of work while in the CAA, shall we?

I know which school has the most:
CAA regular season titles
CAA tourney titles
NCAA appearances
NIT appearances
Titles/seasons played in the CAA

So, I'd say it's the rest of the league that has some catching up to do, no?

[ZoneAdmin]

Here's my bold prediction:

This will be Blaine Taylor's final season at ODU.

[bigblue1975]

Here's my bold prediction:

This will be Blaine Taylor's final season at ODU.

It's probably your Christmas wish too. :lol:

[bigblue1975]

Winning does not necessarily equal dominating. VCU was 17-4 in the CAA in 2004; I wouldn't say we dominated. We won a lot of tight ones.

Skins are 3-0. Are they dominating? Apparently so if one follows the ODU mindset.

I'm sorry that logic and reality are lost on you................the upper echelon of the CAA was quite evenly matched last year................and will likely be again. Once again, six teams w/ double digit wins, three w/ 13+...............an OT title game. No domination. Sorry. I saw all CAA teams play live several times; little difference between the upper echelon squads. Just a bucket or two here and there...............

At least one of your faithful understands:

From ODeeYou --
Lets not go overboard.
First of all, we were picked to win the title last year, so everyone was gunning for us. We also were in first place the entire year after a fast start, so we got everyone's best shot all season long.
But that is not to say we didn't get a break or two that we hadn't seen in several years. We beat Drexel on the road when Brooks was out with an injury. Dahi threw up a wild shot to put us up by one and they missed a last second try.
Alex tossed up a three pointer against ECU that gave us a one point win. ECU also missed the last shot of the game. Hofstra too had a last second try to beat us but they didn't convert it. Towson nearly got by us at their place. And then there was the OT game in the CAA championship. Goldsberry and Slattery were not 100% in at least one of the games against their teams.
Let's face it. We were being dealt face cards all year.
What will happen this year? We'll just have to wait and see.

Sometimes it's your year to get the breaks...............other times not.




Big Blue quote:
Champions make plays. ODU did and VCU did not.


VCU has won 10 of the past 12 against ODU (including ten straight)!!!

Last 4 Years (CAA record/including CAA tourney games, post seasons, etc.):
UNCW - 60-23; 2 NCAAs, 2 CAA Finals, 1 NCAA win; 6 ESPN/CBS appearances
VCU - 58-25; 1 NCAA; 1 NIT; 3 CAA Finals; 6 ESPN/CBS appearances
Drex - 50-28; 2 NITs, 1 CAA Final; 1 ESPN appearance
GMU - 48-30; 2 NITs, 1 CAA Final; 1 ESPN appearance
ODU - 46-33; 1 NCAA, 1 CAA Final; 3 ESPN/CBS appearances

I'd say VCU (and UNCW and GMU) have made more than their fair share of "plays." ODU still has some serious "catching up" to do.


Perspective gentlemen..............perspective.

PERSPECTIVE? :lol:

[MarshaLee]

UnBold Prediction: If ODU doesn't win the CAA Tourney, the CAA will get 2 bids this year. ODU will win the CAA regular season crown, will have a better overall record than every other CAA team, and some wins against good OOC teams (this will be the factor that propels them into the tourney even with a CAA tourney loss). The CAA will be very competitive this year, and 1 or 2 teams (maybe Hofstra or VCU or GMU) will trail ODU in the conference chase by 1 or 2 games. Although I hope that ODU will win the CAA tourney, any of the top four teams could win an automatic bid to the Big Dance. Regardless, ODU is dancing. If ODU wins the CAA tourney, they will be the CAA's sole bid because the other top CAA teams will not have racked up very strong OOC victories (much like ODU in 2005). Again, the CAA will have a bunch of NIT bids.

[T-McGriddle]

Here's my bold prediction:

This will be Blaine Taylor's final season at ODU.

ZA, for Blaine to bolt, ODU needs to dance. That must mean that you think ODU will either win the CAA regular season and tournament again (in dominant fashion), or dominate their OOC and CAA regular season and get knocked off by a lucky CAA underling on their way to an at-large bid. Those are the only two scenarios that will allow Blaine to leave after this season.

[gmutom]

UnBold Prediction: If ODU doesn't win the CAA Tourney, the CAA will get 2 bids this year.

If it's an UnBold Prediction, why did you bold it? There's that 4th tier ODU education at work once again. :lol:

[masonfan]

UnBold Prediction: If ODU doesn't win the CAA Tourney, the CAA will get 2 bids this year.

If it's an UnBold Prediction, why did you bold it? There's that 4th tier ODU education at work once again. :lol:

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[T-McGriddle]

UnBold Prediction: If ODU doesn't win the CAA Tourney, the CAA will get 2 bids this year.

If it's an UnBold Prediction, why did you bold it? There's that 4th tier ODU education at work once again. :lol:

I'm sure that your vastly superior lower third tier education taught you that a word can have more than one meaning, Tom.

bold ( P ) Pronunciation Key (bld)
adj. bold·er, bold·est
1. Fearless and daring; courageous.
2. Requiring or exhibiting courage and bravery. See Synonyms at brave.
3. Unduly forward and brazen; impudent: a bold, sassy child.
4. Clear and distinct to the eye; conspicuous: a bold handwriting.
5. Steep or abrupt in grade or terrain: bold cliffs.
6. Printing. Boldface.

[gmutom]

I'm sure that your vastly superior lower third tier education taught you that a word can have more than one meaning, Tom.

bold ( P ) Pronunciation Key (bld)
adj. bold·er, bold·est
1. Fearless and daring; courageous.
6. Printing. Boldface.

A valiant effort, McGriddle, but we're unfortunatley unable to accept that answer. You see, both you and your boy Blahi obviously joined the CAAZone after (note the use of bold type) ODU had it's self-professed best season ever. That's not "fearless, daring or courageous." In fact, it's kind of cowardly. It's easy to come on the boards and talk smack when your team is on top, but the two of you were nowhere to be found during your team's mediiocre season the year before. Kind of sad if you ask me.

[MarshaLee]

Let's talk about this 3rd tier thing for a second, Tom. Oh, you must have graduated from the Law School to be as proud as you are. Because everyone knows that the law school, which is very good I might add, is the only reason that GMU is in the 3rd tier. Otherwise, the reputation of GMU is plainly, well... mediocre at best. It's like the Tim Kaine of colleges. Other than their law school graduates, GMU students have very little to be proud of.

[gmutom]

Yeah, I'm sure our two Nobel Prize winners and nationally-recognized Economics Department have nothing to do with our ranking. But thanks for acknowledging our law school. It's good to know you're paying attention at least some of the great things that are going on at George Mason University.

[masonfan]

Do people from ODU even know what a Nobel prize is?

[MarshaLee]

Kudos to Mercatus as well. However, the law school administrators are reluctantly associated with George Mason University. They like being on their own campus, far away from the mediocre basketabll team and regular academics. In fact, there has been a push by many to secede and become the "Arlington School of Law." I can't blame them really.

[masonfan]

This is a bold prediction there won't be an arlington school of law this is not a not a bold prediction there won't be an ODU school of law, or for that matter a Norfolk school of law.


See the difference. :roll:

[MarshaLee]

MF,
Let's be honest. You know nothing of the School of Law. You are speaking out of turn. Stop pretending you have a distinguished degree and profession.

[masonfan]

I am not the one with a odd looking white stain on my favorite players upper lip. But then again, I didn't go to ODU, so maybe I don't get it.

[ZoneAdmin]

ZA, for Blaine to bolt, ODU needs to dance. That must mean that you think ODU will either win the CAA regular season and tournament again (in dominant fashion), or dominate their OOC and CAA regular season and get knocked off by a lucky CAA underling on their way to an at-large bid. Those are the only two scenarios that will allow Blaine to leave after this season.

I think we all know that a repeat of last season is likely. Dominant? Remains to be seen. I do think ODU will be good enough to see post season play, most likely the NCAA's by one path or another.

Blaine knows that Alex is a special player, he also knows that replacing Alex will be tough. He's also not getting any younger. I think he will leave when Alex leaves. It's the smart thing to do in his shoes.

[monarchmac23507]

I am not the one with a odd looking white stain on my favorite players upper lip. But then again, I didn't go to ODU, so maybe I don't get it.

We'll see what you say when Dahi makes you his bitch this year.

[MarshaLee]

ZA, who takes the dive after Tony breaks his ankles in your avatar?

[hemloche]

ZA, who takes the dive after Tony breaks his ankles in your avatar?

I forget the guys name but it was from the Manhattan game last year. It was just a sick sick play. Tony laid down the head fake and the dude bought it hook line and sinker. If I can remember correctly he stopped sliding on the floor somewhere under the basket

[T-McGriddle]

I'm sure that your vastly superior lower third tier education taught you that a word can have more than one meaning, Tom.

bold ( P ) Pronunciation Key (bld)
adj. bold·er, bold·est
1. Fearless and daring; courageous.
6. Printing. Boldface.

A valiant effort, McGriddle, but we're unfortunatley unable to accept that answer. You see, both you and your boy Blahi obviously joined the CAAZone after (note the use of bold type) ODU had it's self-professed best season ever. That's not "fearless, daring or courageous." In fact, it's kind of cowardly. It's easy to come on the boards and talk smack when your team is on top, but the two of you were nowhere to be found during your team's mediiocre season the year before. Kind of sad if you ask me.

You are correct, my screenname joined the Zone after last season. But is it not possible to have multiple screennames? Would it be possible for one poster to have retired a screenname after each season? Even your third tier education can follow this simple logic, right? I recall an old poster named Florida Monarch who posts under a different screenname these days.

[masonfan]

However he still has the same post count. Same with Ram Reaper when he was whatever it was. Nice try, but no cigar. Tom was right.

[gmutom]

You are correct, my screenname joined the Zone after last season. But is it not possible to have multiple screennames? Would it be possible for one poster to have retired a screenname after each season? I recall an old poster named Florida Monarch who posts under a different screenname these days.

Dude, don't even compare yourself to Florida Monarch/Monarch Nation. He is a class act who openly admitted to changing names; you are a hack. Big difference. Also, I'm honored to say that as the Poster of the Year runner-up, FM/MN would take over my title should I die before my term is up.

[T-McGriddle]

Also, I'm honored to say that as the Poster of the Year runner-up, FM/MN would take over my title should I die before my term is up.
He should have it now. The only reason you get poster of the year is because you're from Mason and this site is run by Mason. You're a few steps up from P8 and MM, and Monarch Nation should never have to be compared to you. There are at least a dozen posters from different schools that are more worthy of Poster of the Year than you.

You're right about the post count. I'm sure that Monarch Nation and ZA worked out some way to carry over the post count to his new name. I'm not that concerned with my post count--and it's disheartening to think that a grown man thinks that the quality of a fan is directly proportionate to his post count on a message board.

[gmutom]

He should have it now. The only reason you get poster of the year is because you're from Mason and this site is run by Mason. You're a few steps up from P8 and MM, and Monarch Nation should never have to be compared to you. There are at least a dozen posters from different schools that are more worthy of Poster of the Year than you.

Wow, envy is not a good trait for you. The difference between you and me is that most of my posts are lined with humor; yours are bitter and combative. It's fair to say that you have pissed off more people in a few months than I have in a year and a half. My suggestion is to not try so hard. Just have fun like the rest of us, and everything will work out fine.

[monarchmac23507]

Wow, poster of the year... you must be some fan. I bet gmutom doesn't even stand up or yell during games. Heck, from what I hear, U of R fans are also quite gentlemen. Some model gmutom, just not my cup of tea. If McGriddle types weren't here stirring the pot, there would be no reason to read the boards. They are for entertainment purposes, not to make friends. So anyway, being called "poster of the year" to me equates to being called "most like U of R fans."

[gmutom]

Wow, poster of the year... you must be some fan. I bet gmutom doesn't even stand up or yell during games. Heck, from what I hear, U of R fans are also quite gentlemen. Some model gmutom, just not my cup of tea. If McGriddle types weren't here stirring the pot, there would be no reason to read the boards. They are for entertainment purposes, not to make friends. So anyway, being called "poster of the year" to me equates to being called "most like U of R fans."

This could be one of the incoherent posts I've ever read. Since your goal to insult me was unsuccessful, I'll let U of R fans defend themselves if they can decipher what in the hell you are talking about.

[T-McGriddle]

This could be one of the incoherent posts I've ever read. Since your goal to insult me was unsuccessful, I'll let U of R fans defend themselves if they can decipher what in the hell you are talking about.

That was funny! I like the part that you lined with humor!

[VRam2]

A law school without an affiliation with a university would lose its ABA accreditation. Thus, I doubt there is any such movement.

[T-McGriddle]

Wow, envy is not a good trait for you. The difference between you and me is that most of my posts are lined with humor; yours are bitter and combative. It's fair to say that you have pissed off more people in a few months than I have in a year and a half. My suggestion is to not try so hard. Just have fun like the rest of us, and everything will work out fine.


Would I have to neuter myself to become poster of the year? That, my friend, is a distinction you can have. I'll never play nice with P8, MM, and you just to win some cyber-space award that proves that I like all CAA teams equally. Not my style. I'll go on supporting a championship team, and you go on trying to win awards that make up for the fact that GMU is a 4th tier CAA team.

[monarchmac23507]

Wow, envy is not a good trait for you. The difference between you and me is that most of my posts are lined with humor; yours are bitter and combative. It's fair to say that you have pissed off more people in a few months than I have in a year and a half. My suggestion is to not try so hard. Just have fun like the rest of us, and everything will work out fine.


Would I have to neuter myself to become poster of the year? That, my friend, is a distinction you can have. I'll never play nice with P8, MM, and you just to win some cyber-space award that proves that I like all CAA teams equally. Not my style. I'll go on supporting a championship team, and you go on trying to win awards that make up for the fact that GMU is a 4th tier CAA team.I don't have the final standings in front of me, but were they not a 6th tier CAA team last year?

[gmutom]

I guess monarchmac23507, mcgriddle and blahi were absent the day they taught wit at ODU. It is nice to see that the three of you took the time to pose for this yearbook photo, though:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/37/Stooges3.jpg

[VRam2]

Gee, those McMuffin and BigMac guys really are p!ssed off about that Poster of the Year thing. Maybe they should go complaint to their mommies. :shock: :roll:

[T-McGriddle]

I guess monarchmac23507, mcgriddle and blahi were absent the day they taught wit at ODU. It is nice to see that the three of you took the time to pose for this yearbook photo, though:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/37/Stooges3.jpg

Is this wit?

[T-McGriddle]

25 pounds of muscle added to his frame means very little on the basketball court. Until Dahi fully understands the game on both end of the floor, he will never be as good as Loughton. Loughton is an EXCELLENT basketball player because he is an EXCELLENT understander of the game. Dahi is a great player in ODU's chances to be a top 20 team, but he is not the reason people are picking ODU to be the best non-major out there.

For now, keep Hunter and Loughton in your prayers for no injuries. They are your ticket to the Sweet 16.


A curse, or merely prophetic?

[fro]

Or c) wildly off the mark.

I'll take hmmmmm........ c).

[bigblue1975]

ZA, for Blaine to bolt, ODU needs to dance. That must mean that you think ODU will either win the CAA regular season and tournament again (in dominant fashion), or dominate their OOC and CAA regular season and get knocked off by a lucky CAA underling on their way to an at-large bid. Those are the only two scenarios that will allow Blaine to leave after this season.

I think we all know that a repeat of last season is likely. Dominant? Remains to be seen. I do think ODU will be good enough to see post season play, most likely the NCAA's by one path or another.

Blaine knows that Alex is a special player, he also knows that replacing Alex will be tough. He's also not getting any younger. I think he will leave when Alex leaves. It's the smart thing to do in his shoes.

ZA wasn't the only poster to say BT would be gone after Alex was done. I guess the smart money now has BT staying for a season or two. :shock: :lol:

[T-McGriddle]

Or c) wildly off the mark.

I'll take hmmmmm........ c).

Actually it wasn't off the mark at all. Both Loughton and Hunter struggled with injuries all season. Reaper said that our success was contingent on their health. Both were unhealthy and we had an unsuccessful season (by ODU standards).

[gmutom]

Actually it wasn't off the mark at all. Both Loughton and Hunter struggled with injuries all season. Reaper said that our success was contingent on their health. Both were unhealthy and we had an unsuccessful season (by ODU standards).
Damn, if only they had stayed healthy, then you could have been in the Sweet 16. That's an off year for Mason, but I can understand why ODU fans would be happy with it. You have to start somewhere, right? :D

[T-McGriddle]

Tom, GMU is still the Right Said Fred of the CAA. When you match ODU's CAA championships, NCAA births, or NIT appearances, then feel free to compare the programs. Lord knows Right Said Fred can't compete with the Beatles when you compare their complete body of work.

[Halftime Hero]

Worst. Analogy. Ever.


So bad on so many levels...

[MarshaLee]

Worst. Analogy. Ever.


So bad on so many levels...

Yes, but creative.

[gmutom]

When you match ODU's CAA championships, NCAA births, or NIT appearances, then feel free to compare the programs.
http://store.fansonly.com/marketplace/store/Vendor296/images/finalfour-tee-s.jpg

[Juan Kerr]

Tom, GMU is still the Right Said Fred of the CAA. When you match ODU's CAA championships, NCAA births, or NIT appearances, then feel free to compare the programs. Lord knows Right Said Fred can't compete with the Beatles when you compare their complete body of work.

I have to agree with Tom on this one. I'd gladly take a Final Four appearance as an at-large team in the NCAA Tournament over all of ODU's accomplishments. What ODU has done in the past is great for ODU but it pales in comparision for the exposure that GMU's run to the Final Four has done for the conference.

[T-McGriddle]

Those are the tackiest shirts ever...did a kid design those in art class or did GMU actually pay someone to design those?

[ACW]

Tom, GMU is still the Right Said Fred of the CAA. When you match ODU's CAA championships, NCAA births, or NIT appearances, then feel free to compare the programs. Lord knows Right Said Fred can't compete with the Beatles when you compare their complete body of work.
Maybe you should've said "or." I'll take this NCAA birth over any of ODU's anyday.

[gmutom]

Those are the tackiest shirts ever...did a kid design those in art class or did GMU actually pay someone to design those?
It's better than the alternative.

http://www.customink.com/temp/proofs/Apr252006Tue090846AM18154front.jpg

[gmutom]

I just found another ODU shirt. TM must have designed this one:

http://www.customink.com/temp/proofs/Apr252006Tue092218AM19313front.jpg

[RockyMountainMan]

Tom, GMU is still the Right Said Fred of the CAA. When you match ODU's CAA championships, NCAA births, or NIT appearances, then feel free to compare the programs. Lord knows Right Said Fred can't compete with the Beatles when you compare their complete body of work.

OK let's compare:

CAA Regular Season Championships
ODU (4) 1994, 1995, 1997, 2005
GMU (3) 1999, 2000 (tie), 2006 (tie)

NIT Appearances
ODU (4 Appearances, 6-4) 1993 (1-1), 1994 (1-1), 1999 (1-1), 2006 (3-1)
GMU (3 Appearances, 3-3) 1986 (1-1), 2002 (0-1), 2004 (2-1)

NCAA Appearances
ODU (4 appearances, 1-4) 1992 (0-1), 1995 (1-1), 1997 (0-1), 2005 (0-1)
GMU (4 appearances, 4-4) 1989 (0-1), 1999 (0-1), 2001 (0-1), 2006 (4-1)

[T-McGriddle]

RMM, wrong again.

ODU - 8 NCAA appearances, 8 NIT appearances, 4 CAA Conference Championships (the championship is handed to the tourney winner not some regular season co-champ)

[Coo Coo]

2-8 in the NCAA's... impressive!

How many Sweet 16's?
How many Elite 8's?
How many Final 4's?

[T-McGriddle]

Like I said Right Said Fred, talk to me when you have a second hit. We realize that 'You're Too Sexy' for the CAA right now, but maybe next year when you get smacked around in conference a bit, you'll realize that you're hardly the conferences best program. By my calculations, it will take GMU another 25 years to match ODU's accomplishments as of 2006 at the rate they're currently going. Good luck.

[gmutom]

By my calculations, it will take GMU another 25 years to match ODU's accomplishments as of 2006 at the rate they're currently going. Good luck.
And you will NEVER make the Final 4 (at least in men's hoops). The fact is that Mason will always be recognized over ODU because of our trip to Indy. Nobody out there is impressed that you are the king of the one-and-dones. Your self proclaimed best team ever couldn't even win one game in the tournament last year. Your so-called dynasty of a program finished fourth in the conference and had to settle for the NIT. You say we were the third best CAA team this year, yet we managed to win four tournament games this year. That speaks volumes about your program and ours.

[T-McGriddle]

Actually Tommy, ODU has a National Title on our resume. Your best team ever was stuck getting knocked out of the semifinals in both the CAA tourney and the NCAA tourney. I guess next year will be another typical GMU team--middle of the pack in the conference, hoping for an NIT birth, and likely 1-and-done in any postseason play you're fortunate enough to see. Call me in 25 years if GMU can match ODU's success as of 2006. It'll be good to hear from you if you're still around.

BTW, word on the street is that Birdsong probably won't be academically eligible. That's why ODU coaches stopped recruiting him. Good luck with yet another idiot recruit.

[Johnny Rifle]

Actually Tommy, ODU has a National Title on our resume. Your best team ever was stuck getting knocked out of the semifinals in both the CAA tourney and the NCAA tourney. I guess next year will be another typical GMU team--middle of the pack in the conference, hoping for an NIT birth, and likely 1-and-done in any postseason play you're fortunate enough to see. Call me in 25 years if GMU can match ODU's success as of 2006. It'll be good to hear from you if you're still around.

BTW, word on the street is that Birdsong probably won't be academically eligible. That's why ODU coaches stopped recruiting him. Good luck with yet another idiot recruit.

1-AA titles don't count in basketball either.

[Mercury]

Actually Tommy, ODU has a National Title on our resume.


I thought we were talking about mens basketball.

[T-McGriddle]

Johnny your idiocy amazes me daily. There is no 1-AA classification in basketball. :roll:

[Johnny Rifle]

Johnny your idiocy amazes me daily. There is no 1-AA classification in basketball. :roll:

I meant Division II, which is even lower than I-AA. I'd of settled for a I-AA crown than a division II crown.

So I made a mistake. At least I admit them.

[Juan Kerr]

Actually Tommy, ODU has a National Title on our resume. Your best team ever was stuck getting knocked out of the semifinals in both the CAA tourney and the NCAA tourney. I guess next year will be another typical GMU team--middle of the pack in the conference, hoping for an NIT birth, and likely 1-and-done in any postseason play you're fortunate enough to see. Call me in 25 years if GMU can match ODU's success as of 2006. It'll be good to hear from you if you're still around.

BTW, word on the street is that Birdsong probably won't be academically eligible. That's why ODU coaches stopped recruiting him. Good luck with yet another idiot recruit.

Hate to break it to you but a Division II Championship means squat!!! Aside from ODU and without googling the information can anyone name another Division II Men's Basketball Championship team??? What a freakin piece of work you are TM. Are you really that stupid or do you work hard at it every day?

In conclusion, all I have to say (and I apologize to Joss Whedon for this)

Take my ball. Take my hoop.
Take me where I cannot shoot.
I don't care, I'm still free.
You can't take the Final Four from me.

Take me out to the black.
Tell 'em I ain't comin' back.
Burn the Dome And boil the sea.
You can't take the Final Four from me.

Have no place I can be since I found tranquility.
But you can't take the Final Four from me.

[Dukie95]

If GMU is Right Said Fred in this analogy, you're sounding more like Natalie Merchant.

[Mr. Jablomi]

I think Jacksonville won a national title with Artis Gilmore. Are they recognized as a great program? Or one hit wonders?

GMU had a dream year, no doubt about it. Bottom line, for their history, they have a losing record, have a roughly 35% winning % vs ODU, and have not been a good program.

One year, regardless of the outcome, won't change that.

Hey, while I don't think we'll see ODU in the Final Four any time soon, I'll cover any amount, with anyone willing to make the bet, that the same could be said of GMU.

[Johnny Rifle]

I'd think ODU would be more like the "Pina Coloda" song guy. Not many people recognize who he is or know his name.

At least people can point out Right Said Fred when "I'm So Sexy" comes on the radio.

[T-McGriddle]

I'm surprised that you can't Juan. You live in the same state as the D-II champ from 2005, and the runner-up in 2006. Remember the team that beat VCU at VCU this year in an exhibition game? I guess you're equally as smart as Johnny boy.

[Johnny Rifle]

I'm surprised that you can't Juan. You live in the same state as the D-II champ from 2005, and the runner-up in 2006. Remember the team that beat VCU at VCU this year in an exhibition game? I guess you're equally as smart as Johnny boy.

Quick, what was your SAT score?

[MarshaLee]

Here's the problem with Blowme and Tom's posts: Tom said ODU will "NEVER" be in the Final Four, and Blowme is betting ODU and GMU won't be either anytime soon. If I've learned one thing from this year, it's never say never. Nobody, including GMU expected to be in the Final Four, yet it happened because they fielded a pretty good team and played well together. It's not like this was the frickin' Dream Team! None of their star seniors will play in the NBA, for gosh sakes! And we're supposed to believe it can't happen again? It's a shame that after such a fantastic season you all still have the mid-major inferiority complex. I think with the right team play, Hofstra, ODU, GMU and Drexel have a legitimate shot at a Sweet 16 run next year and maybe better.

[T-McGriddle]

I'd think ODU would be more like the "Pina Coloda" song guy. Not many people recognize who he is or know his name.

At least people can point out Right Said Fred when "I'm So Sexy" comes on the radio.


Yeah, nobody knows who Garth Brooks is. :lol: :roll: :shock:

[T-McGriddle]

Quick, what was your SAT score?


Good enough to land me in a DI-AA school. :lol: :roll:

[gobo]

I think Jacksonville won a national title with Artis Gilmore. Are they recognized as a great program? Or one hit wonders?

GMU had a dream year, no doubt about it. Bottom line, for their history, they have a losing record, have a roughly 35% winning % vs ODU, and have not been a good program.

One year, regardless of the outcome, won't change that.

Hey, while I don't think we'll see ODU in the Final Four any time soon, I'll cover any amount, with anyone willing to make the bet, that the same could be said of GMU.

"Have not been a good program"? By what standards? Good programs don't go to the Final Four? Or have 5 post season appearances in 7 years? I'm not sure I follow you on this one.

And what's GMU vs ODU since Coach L took over?

gobo

[Johnny Rifle]

[quote="Johnny Rifle":ae583]I'd think ODU would be more like the "Pina Coloda" song guy. Not many people recognize who he is or know his name.

At least people can point out Right Said Fred when "I'm So Sexy" comes on the radio.[/quote:ae583]


Yeah, nobody knows who Garth Brooks is. :lol: :roll: :shock:

The other Pina Coloda song..."getting caught in the rain"...but that was a good comeback.

[Halftime Hero]

The comparison makes no sense from the start. Let's break it down..

The Beatles - The single greatest musical act EVER, without question.

Right Said Fred - A middle of the pack one-hit wonder. Remembered more for a laugh than being a pretty good song that never had a follow up.

GMU - For right now they're certainly a one-hit wonder. Never heard of before the dance, however they will be remembered for much more than a "cute story". If you really have to compare them to a one-hit wonder musical act they're well above the likes of Right Said Fred. I'd put em more around Rick Springfield's "Jesse's Girl", a fantastic song but an artist that never quite reached that level again. Not quite Don McLean "American Pie" level though, they would had to have won the whole thing to reach that status.

ODU - They're like the mediocre artist/band, they may have cracked the Billboard Hot 100 a few times but never had a grammy nomination and certainly not a #1 single. As a whole they boast more "successful" seasons but they've got nothing that compares with the level this one season from GMU reached.

The whole thing is pretty idiotic actually but what else would you expect from the drain poster of the decade. As I said earlier..

Worst. Analogy. Ever.

Just for mentioning Right Said Fred in the same sentence as The Beatles and even worse comparing Old Dominion University to the greatness that is/was the Fab Four should have Tmac banned from this board for life.

By the way, the Pina Colada song was done by Rupert Holmes.

[Coo Coo]

Here's the problem with Blowme and Tom's posts: Tom said ODU will "NEVER" be in the Final Four, and Blowme is betting ODU and GMU won't be either anytime soon. If I've learned one thing from this year, it's never say never. Nobody, including GMU expected to be in the Final Four, yet it happened because they fielded a pretty good team and played well together. It's not like this was the frickin' Dream Team! None of their star seniors will play in the NBA, for gosh sakes! And we're supposed to believe it can't happen again? It's a shame that after such a fantastic season you all still have the mid-major inferiority complex. I think with the right team play, Hofstra, ODU, GMU and Drexel have a legitimate shot at a Sweet 16 run next year and maybe better.

While I do think you'll see a couple more "media challenged" teams in the Sweet 16 in the coming years, I'm still not sure about Final Four's though. I would love to see it though!

[T-McGriddle]

Does Drexel have a basketball team still? I haven't heard anything from them since December.

[Juan Kerr]

I'm surprised that you can't Juan. You live in the same state as the D-II champ from 2005, and the runner-up in 2006. Remember the team that beat VCU at VCU this year in an exhibition game? I guess you're equally as smart as Johnny boy.

First of all you are assuming that I live in VA which I don't and we all know that little thing about assuming things. So I guess that qualifies you as dumber than me and Johnny Rifle.

Second of all having a D-II championship is meaningless unless you went to the school during or were an alumni during the championship year. I don't believe that you were either when ODU won their D-II championship. Besides comparing a D-II championship to a Division I NCAA Final Four appearance means about as much as your theories on this board....NOT A DAMNED THING!!!!!!

Face it T-M you are barely treading water here.

[RockyMountainMan]

RMM, wrong again.

ODU - 8 NCAA appearances, 8 NIT appearances, 4 CAA Conference Championships (the championship is handed to the tourney winner not some regular season co-champ)

Ok I see you're changing the rules again, thought we were just talking about the CAA since you said you were the Beatles of the CAA:

But let's go with it:

CAA Regular Season Championships
ODU (4) 1994, 1995, 1997, 2005
GMU (3) 1999, 2000 (tie), 2006 (tie)

CAA Tournament Championships
ODU (4) 1992, 1995, 1997, 2005
GMU (3) 1989, 1999, 2001

NIT Appearances
ODU (10 Appearances, 8-10) 1977 (0-1), 1979 (2-1), 1981 (0-1), 1983 (0-1), 1984 (0-1), 1988 (0-1), 1993 (1-1), 1994 (1-1), 1999 (1-1), 2006 (3-1)
GMU (3 Appearances, 3-3) 1986 (1-1), 2002 (0-1), 2004 (2-1)

Div I--NCAA Appearances
ODU (8 appearances, 2-8 ) 1980 (0-1), 1982 (0-1), 1985 (0-1), 1986 (1-1), 1992 (0-1), 1995 (1-1), 1997 (0-1), 2005 (0-1)
GMU (4 appearances, 4-4) 1989 (0-1), 1999 (0-1), 2001 (0-1), 2006 (4-1)

Overall Postseason (Div I--NCAA & NIT)
ODU 10-18
GMU 7-7

[T-McGriddle]

HH, we saw that post a few minutes ago. Reposting it doesn't make it more relevant, and it certainly doesn't mean that anyone wants to read it in it's entirety. When Drexel becomes relevant in any CAA sport, much less basketball, then you can freely post on topics such as this. Until then go have a cheesesteak and wait.

[Johnny Rifle]

HH, we saw that post a few minutes ago. Reposting it doesn't make it more relevant, and it certainly doesn't mean that anyone wants to read it in it's entirety. When Drexel becomes relevant in any CAA sport, much less basketball, then you can freely post on topics such as this. Until then go have a cheesesteak and wait.

The wrestling team is far more relevant to your sailing team.

[T-McGriddle]

Actually our wrestling team is better than Drexel's also. We placed second behind Hofstra in the CAA Tournament. Thanks for again proving that you don't know anything about sports.

[Halftime Hero]

This thread has nothing to do with Drexel. We all know they don't have the resume` to stack up to ODU or GMU. The point is your original argument was completely idiotic, as are most of your posts. It was nice how you switched the topic once you were proven wrong by just about every poster on this thread.

And to all parties involved please leave the meaningless sports out of this (wrestling, soccer, women's gymnastics). In college athletics there are two sports - football & basketball. Neither school has football (right now) and even though the basketball programs are pretty even head to head ODU certainly has the edge historically.


Although that 10 point first half in Philly last year should negate at least one of ODU's NCAA appearances....

[T-McGriddle]

HH, I'm glad that you realize that historically ODU is the king of CAA programs. However, I would like a little clarification as to how I was proven wrong in this thread by "just about every poster." My original post that revisited this thread was a question:


[quote="Ram Reaper":12fbf]25 pounds of muscle added to his frame means very little on the basketball court. Until Dahi fully understands the game on both end of the floor, he will never be as good as Loughton. Loughton is an EXCELLENT basketball player because he is an EXCELLENT understander of the game. Dahi is a great player in ODU's chances to be a top 20 team, but he is not the reason people are picking ODU to be the best non-major out there.

For now, keep Hunter and Loughton in your prayers for no injuries. They are your ticket to the Sweet 16.


A curse, or merely prophetic?[/quote:12fbf]

[Halftime Hero]

Tom, GMU is still the Right Said Fred of the CAA. When you match ODU's CAA championships, NCAA births, or NIT appearances, then feel free to compare the programs. Lord knows Right Said Fred can't compete with the Beatles when you compare their complete body of work.

This ridiculous analogy is what you've been wrong about (today). Every non-ODU poster on these boards would rather have GMU's resume` right now, they may be a "one-hit wonder" but they're much better known (and remembered now) nationally than ODU ever was, and quite possibly ever will be.

[gmutom]

Every non-ODU poster on these boards would rather have GMU's resume right now, they may be a "one-hit wonder" but they're much better known (and remembered now) nationally than ODU ever was, and quite possibly ever will be.
Well, that about sums it up. Thanks for coming, everybody. Please be sure to tip your waiters and waitresses on your way out. If you've been drinking (TM), we will be happy to call you a cab to ensure you arrive home safely.

[RockyMountainMan]

This thread has nothing to do with Drexel. We all know they don't have the resume` to stack up to ODU or GMU.

Although at 1-4 Drexel has the same winning percentage in the NCAA's as ODU as is UNCW :D

VCU has won 4 games in 4 separate NCAA tournaments and is 4-7 overall.
JMU is 3-4 overall and is the only current CAA team to win games in multiple NCAA Tourneys as a CAA/ECAC-South representative.

Also, nice to see that T-Mac has been named a Site Admin and can tell people what they are allowed and not allowed to post. Although the words "Site Admin" must be more hidden than (drain) :roll:

The analogy is stupid. And it's going to be totally subjective as to who has the better resume. I do remember ODU's win against Villanova in 1995, but it was because it went 3OT's, but it's still only one win.

Neither team is the Beatles even in the CAA. Nobody has been dominant over a long period of time.

[T-McGriddle]

This ridiculous analogy is what you've been wrong about (today). Every non-ODU poster on these boards would rather have GMU's resume` right now, they may be a "one-hit wonder" but they're much better known (and remembered now) nationally than ODU ever was, and quite possibly ever will be.


Of course, every one-hit wonder thinks they'll make it back to the top. Then you wake up one day, realize that you were a sham, and your head coach ends up on Surreal Life with half of Milli Vanili. Ten years from now, even GMU folks will look back and say, "Man, it was nice to have that one great season, but I'd trade that flash in the pan season for some consistent success anyday."

[gmutom]

Ten years from now, even GMU folks will look back and say, "Man, it was nice to have that one great season, but I'd trade that flash in the pan season for some consistent success anyday."
I wouldn't trade our Final Four run for 10 straight NIT semifinal appearances. Keep thinking your so-callled consistency over the years is a badge of honor, because the rest of us just see you as going one-and-done six out of the eight times you've made the NCAA tournament. You haven't won an NCAA tournament game in 11 years. And for that one "recent" victory you managed in 1995, this one-hit wonder is for you:


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[Juan Kerr]

will someone please shut this nut job up.

Get over yourself T-M, you really are out of your league here.

[GMUfan2000]

Neither team is the Beatles even in the CAA. Nobody has been dominant over a long period of time.
I am staying out of the argument at large, because it's stupid, but I just want to mention if there is a "Beatles" of the CAA, it is as likely UNCW as anyone else.

[dunkanddukin]

More "dynasty" talk. :lol:

[RockyMountainMan]

ODU - 1975 National Champs, 8 NCAA appearances, 8 NIT appearances, 4 CAA Conference Championships (real championships, not some co-champion crap), and the undisputed best program in the CAA

LOL!!!! He can't even tout ODU's accomplishments right!

8 NCAA Div 1 appearances
10 NIT Appearances

If you want to include the Div II Championship then it's at least 11 NCAA Tournament appearances. I'm amazed you aren't promoting the 3 Final Four appearances (in division II)

[T-McGriddle]

Thanks for pointing that out RMM. It's really hard keeping up with all of ODU's postseason success. I wish I only had to count to four like GMU fans.

[Juan Kerr]

RMM, you beat me to it. Yeah ODU has won a National Championship in DIVISION II!!!!! More than likely long before T-Mc was even an itch in his daddy's shorts. Until ODU has been to a Final Four in Division I, he has no leg to stand on. . While T-M hasn't done or said anything of substance on here since he came here, I can tell you the real reason why ZA & ZM have not banned his sorry ass (again) is for the sole reason that we all need someone to beat up on and to keep around for comic relief. Now back to the real discussions on here and enough of the idiot bashing.

[T-McGriddle]

Juan did that mullet convention get rained out today? Oh well, at least it gave you time to wax your '87 Camero. BTW, sweet hood scoop.

[RockyMountainMan]

Thanks for pointing that out RMM. It's really hard keeping up with all of ODU's postseason success. I wish I only had to count to four like GMU fans.

Do you ever compare apples to apples? If you are going to compare the 4 for GMU (NCAA DIVISION I Tournament Wins) then compare that to ODU's 2.

And the best program in the CAA since Delaware has gotten here has been UNCW. They've won 3 titles in the past 5 years and lost in the semis the other 2 years. There goes the undisputed title!

(For Comparison, look at ODU's "success" in the CAA over the same period. Champions 1, Lost Semis 1, Lost Quarterfinals 3)

[T-McGriddle]

There you go with your arbitrary time constrictions. Sorry RMM, time didn't begin when Delaware joined the league. The only thing that began when Delaware joined the league was their losing streak.


As for the number four, I was using that as the highest number that GMU fans need to count to in any classification--CAA Championships, NIT appearances, and NCAA appearances.

[Johnny Rifle]

There you go with your arbitrary time constrictions. Sorry RMM, time didn't begin when Delaware joined the league. The only thing that began when Delaware joined the league was their losing streak.


As for the number four, I was using that as the highest number that GMU fans need to count to in any classification--CAA Championships, NIT appearances, and NCAA appearances.

Delaware has far more tradition in mens hoops than ODU, and coming from a Drexel fan this must mean a lot.

[MarshaLee]

[quote="T-McGriddle":af921]There you go with your arbitrary time constrictions. Sorry RMM, time didn't begin when Delaware joined the league. The only thing that began when Delaware joined the league was their losing streak.


As for the number four, I was using that as the highest number that GMU fans need to count to in any classification--CAA Championships, NIT appearances, and NCAA appearances.

Delaware has far more tradition in mens hoops than ODU, and coming from a Drexel fan this must mean a lot.[/quote:af921]

Whoa, whoa, whoa...

[GannonFan]

[quote="T-McGriddle":f5f41]There you go with your arbitrary time constrictions. Sorry RMM, time didn't begin when Delaware joined the league. The only thing that began when Delaware joined the league was their losing streak.


As for the number four, I was using that as the highest number that GMU fans need to count to in any classification--CAA Championships, NIT appearances, and NCAA appearances.

Delaware has far more tradition in mens hoops than ODU, and coming from a Drexel fan this must mean a lot.[/quote:f5f41]

Come one Johnny, I'd like to think we have tradition in men's hoops but outside of success in the 90's and very early this decade, we've just plain sucked. I'm ok with that as I'll be entering my 35th year of watching the football program this fall, but UD basketball has always been a pretty poor product. Who knows, that could change with the Ross at the helm - we'll have to wait and see.

[T-McGriddle]

Delaware has far more tradition in mens hoops than ODU, and coming from a Drexel fan this must mean a lot.


Strike three, Johnny. After your third retarded post today, the board unanimously agrees that your posting privileges are revoked for the day.

[RockyMountainMan]

[quote="T-McGriddle":28068]There you go with your arbitrary time constrictions. Sorry RMM, time didn't begin when Delaware joined the league. The only thing that began when Delaware joined the league was their losing streak.


As for the number four, I was using that as the highest number that GMU fans need to count to in any classification--CAA Championships, NIT appearances, and NCAA appearances.

Delaware has far more tradition in mens hoops than ODU, and coming from a Drexel fan this must mean a lot.

Come one Johnny, I'd like to think we have tradition in men's hoops but outside of success in the 90's and very early this decade, we've just plain sucked. I'm ok with that as I'll be entering my 35th year of watching the football program this fall, but UD basketball has always been a pretty poor product. Who knows, that could change with the Ross at the helm - we'll have to wait and see.[/quote:28068]

I'd have to generally agree, but we do have more NCAA Appearances than ODU in the past 10 years (2-1) :D

And no matter how far back you go, I would say UNCW is the best program in the CAA of all the programs still in the CAA.

And since Delaware has come into the CAA we have the same number of CAA tournament wins (4) as ODU, of course they got 3 in one year, and the best we've done is 1 in any tournament.

[Juan Kerr]

Juan did that mullet convention get rained out today? Oh well, at least it gave you time to wax your '87 Camero. BTW, sweet hood scoop.

Damn you got me there with the mullet convention and " '87 Camero", did you come up with that one all by yourself or did your boyfriend Blahi give you that one??? It has been proven time and time again that I don't have a mullet. And the name of the car is Camaro not Camero you nitwit. As it happens I own an 2003 Jetta so kick your sources they lied to you yet again.

[T-McGriddle]

Sorry, I'm not an expert on hotrods. Can I borrow your Redneck for Dummies book?

[Juan Kerr]

Sorry, I'm not an expert on hotrods. Can I borrow your Redneck for Dummies book?

take your pick of one of these because every thread you post your drivel in is going to end up with one.

http://www.taymor.ca/c03_doors_and_hardware/images/security_padlock.jpg

[T-McGriddle]

I'd have to generally agree, but we do have more NCAA Appearances than ODU in the past 10 years (2-1) :D

And no matter how far back you go, I would say UNCW is the best program in the CAA of all the programs still in the CAA.

And since Delaware has come into the CAA we have the same number of CAA tournament wins (4) as ODU, of course they got 3 in one year, and the best we've done is 1 in any tournament.

There you go with your arbitrary time frames again.

Like Johnny, you too are wrong RMM. UNCW's postseason accomplishments also does not match up with the Mighty Monarchs.
UNCW Postseason appearances: 1998 NIT · 2000 NCAA · 2001 NIT · 2002 NCAA · 2003 NCAA

Maybe your next attempt should be to combine postseason stats of multiple teams until you can match or beat ODU's records.

[gmutom]

There you go with your arbitrary time frames again.
TM, of course you don't like time frames, because then you'd have to acknowledge that ODU hasn't won a meaningful postseason game in since you were 7. Here are some other things that happened way back in 1995:

Super Bowl champion: San Francisco
World Series champion: Atlanta Braves
NBA champion: Houston
NHL champion: New Jersey
Wimbledon champs: (women) Steffi Graf; (men) Pete Sampras
Kentucky Derby champion: Thunder Gulch
NCAA Basketball champion: UCLA
NCAA Football champion: Nebraska

Best Picture: Forrest Gump
Best TV Show (Drama): NYPD Blue
Best Musical: Sunset Boulevard
Record of the Year: "All I Wanna Do," Sheryl Crow
Album of the Year: MTV Unplugged, Tony Bennett
Song of the Year: "Streets of Philadelphia," Bruce Springsteen

Also of note, this was the year of O.J. Simpson's trial and subsquent acquital. Now, if that doesn't put into perspective how long it's been since ODU won an NCAA tournament game, I don't know what will. Maybe the next time ODU manages to win a game in the NCAA field, Blaine Taylor can rent a white Bronco and ride it around the mean streets of Norfolk to commemorate the occasion.

[Johnny Rifle]

I'd have to generally agree, but we do have more NCAA Appearances than ODU in the past 10 years (2-1) :D

And no matter how far back you go, I would say UNCW is the best program in the CAA of all the programs still in the CAA.

And since Delaware has come into the CAA we have the same number of CAA tournament wins (4) as ODU, of course they got 3 in one year, and the best we've done is 1 in any tournament.

There you go with your arbitrary time frames again.

Like Johnny, you too are wrong RMM. UNCW's postseason accomplishments also does not match up with the Mighty Monarchs.
UNCW Postseason appearances: 1998 NIT · 2000 NCAA · 2001 NIT · 2002 NCAA · 2003 NCAA

Maybe your next attempt should be to combine postseason stats of multiple teams until you can match or beat ODU's records.

I'd have to agree that UNCW is the best program. Perhaps if the focus shifted to the women's program ODU would be a favorite, but UNCW right now would be the more consistent winner.

[Point Guard]

[quote="T-McGriddle":bfbd3]There you go with your arbitrary time constrictions. Sorry RMM, time didn't begin when Delaware joined the league. The only thing that began when Delaware joined the league was their losing streak.


As for the number four, I was using that as the highest number that GMU fans need to count to in any classification--CAA Championships, NIT appearances, and NCAA appearances.

Delaware has far more tradition in mens hoops than ODU, and coming from a Drexel fan this must mean a lot.[/quote:bfbd3]

And another reason why the Poster of the year award was a joke. You want to compare SAT scores and compensation packages, please. Don't quit your day job, oh, that's right, you were scouring the Zone for Photoshop work.

Award winning sports writer in collage, thats too damn funny.

Stick to photoshop, the transition for you isn't; going too well. :shock:

[MarshaLee]

It has been proven time and time again that I don't have a mullet.

Juan Kerr that's nothing to be ashamed of. I'm sure there are a lot of people
out there who have to prove time and time again that they don't have... There have got to be some people
out there, just like you... who have to prove time and time again they they don't... have a mullet.

[Johnny Rifle]

Award winning sports writer in collage, thats too damn funny.

Stick to photoshop, the transition for you isn't; going too well. :shock:

Collage - (noun) an artistic composition comprised of various objects glued or otherwise attached to a common surface.

Perhaps you should stick to verbal forms of communication, since writing composition and spelling is beyond your grasp.

[Point Guard]

[quote="Point Guard":8a524]
Award winning sports writer in collage, thats too damn funny.

Stick to photoshop, the transition for you isn't; going too well. :shock:

Collage - (noun) an artistic composition comprised of various objects glued or otherwise attached to a common surface.

Perhaps you should stick to verbal forms of communication, since writing composition and spelling is beyond your grasp.[/quote:8a524]

All you got? Damn, maybe you and Kyle should start up a service.

[T-McGriddle]

Wow, the best you can do is pick out one misspelled word to joke on? As the defending poster of the year, I expect more. I mean, you yourself have laid out three highly erroneous posts just today, and you're attacking another posters typo? Ballsy.

[Johnny Rifle]

Wow, the best you can do is pick out one misspelled word to joke on? As the defending poster of the year, I expect more. I mean, you yourself have laid out three highly erroneous posts just today, and you're attacking another posters typo? Ballsy.

Confusing collage and college isn't a typo. the A and E keys are far enough apart that it is near impossible to confuse the two. I simply think he doesn't know the difference between the words.

As defending "Drain Poster of the Year", you say that my posts are erroneous. My posts are opinions, which cannot by definition contain errors, no matter how dumb I am.

Why is it on a college basketball message board we have posters who write like they haven't passed 9th grade English?

[Greenamp;GoldSigX]

4th Tier School=4th Tier Education

Again, congratulations on your CAA Pre-Season Championship.

[sportsfan]

Why is it on a college basketball message board we have posters who write like they haven't passed 9th grade English?

Is this a requirement to post on a college BASKETBALL message board ? If so, I apologize. Here I thought this was for CAA BB fans.

[gobo]

I'd have to generally agree, but we do have more NCAA Appearances than ODU in the past 10 years (2-1) :D

And no matter how far back you go, I would say UNCW is the best program in the CAA of all the programs still in the CAA.

And since Delaware has come into the CAA we have the same number of CAA tournament wins (4) as ODU, of course they got 3 in one year, and the best we've done is 1 in any tournament.

There you go with your arbitrary time frames again.

Like Johnny, you too are wrong RMM. UNCW's postseason accomplishments also does not match up with the Mighty Monarchs.
UNCW Postseason appearances: 1998 NIT · 2000 NCAA · 2001 NIT · 2002 NCAA · 2003 NCAA

Maybe your next attempt should be to combine postseason stats of multiple teams until you can match or beat ODU's records.

Wow...did ODU suck the exhaust so bad this year that you suddenly forgot their CAA championship in 2006? The one that you claimed proved UNCW a better team than GMU?

So let me get this straight....when using it to compare to ODU and their success in the CAA, the 2006 championship won by UNCW doesn't apply. But when you want to argue if it meant they were better than GMU this season, you get a hard on for it as big as John Holmes.

Just wondering if I have it straight.

By my count, that would be 4 NCAA appearances for UNCW in the last 7 seasons. How many does ODU have since they've been in the CAA?

gobo

[Point Guard]

Why is it on a college basketball message board we have posters who write like they haven't passed 9th grade English?

Is this a requirement to post on a college BASKETBALL message board ? If so, I apologize. Here I thought this was for CAA BB fans.

Well, JR has solved world peace by catching my misspelled word....still doesn’t take away from his pathetic posting and misinformation he posted over the last few weeks.

Next time I write a dissertation, I'll send him a copy to proof for me.

Hey Green&Gold: better check with your 4th tier buddies on their spelling as well

no, it's just a little strage to see... keep up the good work.

[T-McGriddle]

Confusing collage and college isn't a typo. the A and E keys are far enough apart that it is near impossible to confuse the two. I simply think he doesn't know the difference between the words.

As defending "Drain Poster of the Year", you say that my posts are erroneous. My posts are opinions, which cannot by definition contain errors, no matter how dumb I am.

Why is it on a college basketball message board we have posters who write like they haven't passed 9th grade English?

Claiming that Delaware has a more storied men's hoops past than ODU is NOT an opinion.
Thinking that there is a DI-AA classification in basketball is NOT an opinion.
Thinking that UNCW had more postseason appearances than ODU is NOT an opinion.

You are simply one of many unknowledgeable posters on this forum.

[Point Guard]

Green & Gold:

This is a beautiful post.....live in a glass house, oh, never mind....nice spelling as well.


So if I understand it correctly, a JUCO has to recieve a degree before he can transfer and start the next year. This is why Ricardo talking about being recruited by Mason in two years. Smith got hurt (broken foot?) and redshirted, which is why he was able to work on his degree and still have an extra year of eligibility. Did Tony redshirt a year when he transfered to Mason and that's how he had three years left?

I seem to recall St. Bonnie got in trouble w/this for having a JUCO who's degree was in welding.

[cornell-law-patriot]

1-AA titles don't count in basketball either.

Poster of the Year material... well played, JR.

[Juan Kerr]

Why is it that every pissing match on here have the same common person at the root of it????? I have run circles around said person and all he can do is attack me for my so-called mullet (which btw I don't have, yes I have long hair but it is by no means a mullet) and that I drive a 1987 Camaro (which btw I don't, I drive a 2003 VW Jetta thank you). and that all of a sudden I am a red neck??? To say that this said person is as dumb as a box of rocks would be insulting to the rocks.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/sucks2.jpg


http://www.johnberman.com/pics/funny/step_away_dumbass.jpg

[GMUfan2000]

juan kerr, I don't think I've ever met you, or seen your hair, nor do I care to insult you and if I had to take a side of course I would take yours... but... do you think anyone who has a mullet actually thinks thye have one? and if so, do they walk into the barber and say "I'd like a mullet please?"

[T-McGriddle]

Jettas are the new Camaro, apparently.

Juan, your driver's license picture turned out great. I'm sure the ladies love a guy with "long hair" that drives a bitchin' Jetta!
http://www.mulletlovers.com/images/kaua.jpg

[Juan Kerr]

Jettas are the new Camaro, apparently.

bye bye t-mc and say hello to the world of the ignored (just like your boyfriend Blahi).

[Juan Kerr]

juan kerr, I don't think I've ever met you, or seen your hair, nor do I care to insult you and if I had to take a side of course I would take yours... but... do you think anyone who has a mullet actually thinks thye have one? and if so, do they walk into the barber and say "I'd like a mullet please?"

you'd be surprised, from what I understand its all the rage down in Norfolk.

Yes I have long hair but it is in by no shape or form a mullet, yes I have long hair and keep it tied back but it is pretty much a uniform (as in the same) length all the way around. We have been through this all before with S-Curl and President Hammer and they were proven wrong just as T-Mcgriddle is being proven wrong here.

ZA it is time this thread is lock too!!! It has turned into yet another pissing match by the same ODU Troll that has been at the center of just about every pissing match there has been for the last year.

[GMUfan2000]

...been at the center of just about every pissing match there has been for the last year.
this is my first off-season on the boards, but it does seem to me like every thread I read lately turns to sh!t and the same person does seem to be at the center of it.

btw, I was on a cruise last summer and the entire table next to me at dinner had mullets. really bad ones (if there is such thing as a good one). And I'm talking extended family. 12 people, all mulleted. It was a mullet reunion. I got really drunk one night and almost asked them "what do you ask for when you go to the hair cuttery" but I told my wife first and she stopped me.

[gobo]

[quote="Johnny Rifle":7457b]
Confusing collage and college isn't a typo. the A and E keys are far enough apart that it is near impossible to confuse the two. I simply think he doesn't know the difference between the words.

As defending "Drain Poster of the Year", you say that my posts are erroneous. My posts are opinions, which cannot by definition contain errors, no matter how dumb I am.

Why is it on a college basketball message board we have posters who write like they haven't passed 9th grade English?

Claiming that Delaware has a more storied men's hoops past than ODU is NOT an opinion.
Thinking that there is a DI-AA classification in basketball is NOT an opinion.
Thinking that UNCW had more postseason appearances than ODU is NOT an opinion.

You are simply one of many unknowledgeable posters on this forum.[/quote:7457b]

Pot meet Kettle.

Not giving credit to UNCW for their 2006 Championship except when it fits your arguement is NOT an opinion. It's a blantent oversight. Again..tell me how many CAA titles/NCAA appearances UNCW has compared to ODU since the Monarchs joined the conference.

I'll be over here trying to figure out why anyone cares about mullets, Camaros or Jettas.

gobo

[GMUfan2000]

I'll be over here trying to figure out why anyone cares about mullets, Camaros or Jettas.

And I'll be over here figuring out why anyone doesn't ;-)
I mean, in general, I'd agree, but in a thread where people CONTINUE to argue with someone you cannot argue with, it's nice to have a little comic relief.

[T-McGriddle]

Honestly Gobo, the exclusion of UNCW's most recent title was an oversight. I copy and pasted their postseason appearances off of their website, which hasn't been updated to include this year yet. Either way, the principle of my argument is still supported--ODU has more postseason appearances than any other program in the CAA.

Now let's talk about mullets:
http://www.theworldwidegourmet.com/fish/divers/mullet.jpg

[edm826]

Jettas are the new Camaro, apparently.

I wasnt gonna get into this one, but you just crossed the line....

[T-McGriddle]

That's just funny, I don't care who you are.

[edm826]

i'm just trying to make fun of everyone else who is giving you a hard time for pretty much everyhing you say.. but fine be a jackass.

[edm826]

i wish the look a like thread was still around....

http://www.caazone.com/boards/images/drain.gif = vibrator (photo removed by ZA)

[T-McGriddle]

I'm at least two inches shorter than that, and not quite as purple.

[seahawkhoopsforever]

1975 champs for what?!?! water polo?

[Mercury]

I didnt plan on seeing a purple penis when I opened this thread.

[Mercury]

1975 champs for what?!?! water polo?

division 2 basketball

[Boondocks]

1975 champs for what?!?! water polo?


I said the same thing. I had NO idea TM went to UCLA. :roll:

[Ma$on]

No if, ands or buts about it. TM has run away with Drain of the Year once again.

[Juan Kerr]

No if, ands or buts about it. TM has run away with Drain of the Year once again.

In his case, I don't think Drain of the Year covers it. Dumb Stupid Idiotic Drain of the Millenium is more like it.

[MarshaLee]

No if, ands or buts about it. TM has run away with Drain of the Year once again.

Crawl back into your hole Masonfan.

[MarshaLee]

juan kerr, I don't think I've ever met you, or seen your hair, nor do I care to insult you and if I had to take a side of course I would take yours... but... do you think anyone who has a mullet actually thinks thye have one? and if so, do they walk into the barber and say "I'd like a mullet please?"

LMAO

[Ma$on]

[quote]Dahi as a Sophomore:
Named third team All-CAA...Led CAA in field goal percentage at .519...Ranked fourth in CAA in blocked shots...scored in double figures 18 times...scored a career high 20 points vs. Towson and Drexel...Scored 18 points and 11 rebounds vs. VMI...Blocked more than one shot in a game 15 times...Hauled in five offensive rebounds in back-to-back games vs. Delaware and VCU... CAA Player of the Week on Dec. 20.

Alex as a Sophomore:
First team All-CAA...First Team NABC District IV....Team MVP....CAA All-Academic selection...Athletic Director's Association All-Academic squad... scored 45 points with 15 rebounds vs. Charlotte and 24 points with 15 rebounds vs. St. Joseph's...Hauled in 16 rebounds vs. George Mason...Ranked second in CAA in rebounding and scoring...His 45 points was the most in NCAA Div. I.

Alex has been the #1 offensive option since his sophomore year. Dahi has played second fiddle as a result. I see the Loughton/Dahi years much like the old Toronto Raptors when Vince Carter was the go to guy and Tracy McGrady played the #2. Once McGrady was traded and became the #1 guy his offensive production sky-rocketed. Look for Dahi to increase his offensive production this season and to really establish himself as an inside presence his senior year when Alex is in the NBA.
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So TM, what round is Alex going to be drafted in?

[MarshaLee]

[quote="T-McGriddle":638e5][quote]Dahi as a Sophomore:
Named third team All-CAA...Led CAA in field goal percentage at .519...Ranked fourth in CAA in blocked shots...scored in double figures 18 times...scored a career high 20 points vs. Towson and Drexel...Scored 18 points and 11 rebounds vs. VMI...Blocked more than one shot in a game 15 times...Hauled in five offensive rebounds in back-to-back games vs. Delaware and VCU... CAA Player of the Week on Dec. 20.

Alex as a Sophomore:
First team All-CAA...First Team NABC District IV....Team MVP....CAA All-Academic selection...Athletic Director's Association All-Academic squad... scored 45 points with 15 rebounds vs. Charlotte and 24 points with 15 rebounds vs. St. Joseph's...Hauled in 16 rebounds vs. George Mason...Ranked second in CAA in rebounding and scoring...His 45 points was the most in NCAA Div. I.

Alex has been the #1 offensive option since his sophomore year. Dahi has played second fiddle as a result. I see the Loughton/Dahi years much like the old Toronto Raptors when Vince Carter was the go to guy and Tracy McGrady played the #2. Once McGrady was traded and became the #1 guy his offensive production sky-rocketed. Look for Dahi to increase his offensive production this season and to really establish himself as an inside presence his senior year when Alex is in the NBA.



So TM, what round is Alex going to be drafted in?[/quote:638e5][/quote:638e5]

Masonfan,
How is that you have accumulated 120 posts already? Have you been banned that long?

[PhilaMonarchFan]

Yep, 1975....

NCAA Basketball Champions.

O.D.U. had THE best team in men's basketball (D-2).

..... and believe me, it was every bit as exciting for the University, for the students, and for the region, as is a D-1 championship.

[Boondocks]

Yep, 1975....

NCAA Basketball Champions.

O.D.U. had THE best team in men's basketball (D-2).

..... and believe me, it was every bit as exciting for the University, for the students, and for the region, as is a D-1 championship.

No it wasn't. You don't know how exciting a Division I championship in Men's basketball feels so don't try to compare. I know how exciting a Final Four appearance was though, I bet that was more exciting than the DII championship.

[CommuterMike]

Yep, 1975....

NCAA Basketball Champions.

O.D.U. had THE best team in men's basketball (D-2).

..... and believe me, it was every bit as exciting for the University, for the students, and for the region, as is a D-1 championship.

No it wasn't. You don't know how exciting a Division I championship in Men's basketball feels so don't try to compare. I know how exciting a Final Four appearance was though, I bet that was more exciting than the DII championship.

Do you knokw what a DII championship felt like? I you think his comment was out of line, yours is by the same token.

I think, if you are DII school, a national championship is damn exciting. I have a friend at Tufts (DIII) and he was pumped they just made it into the DIII tourney, let alone winning the thing. It's all relative. You may not get the media hype but it is still extrememly exciting for a school.

[Boondocks]

My post might have been out of line. I think I am directing my TM anger out on the rest of the Monarch fans. Sorry about that. I still would never equate a DII Championship with a DI championship. In college athletics exposure is everything. You just don't get it on the DII level.

[GannonFan]

My post might have been out of line. I think I am directing my TM anger out on the rest of the Monarch fans. Sorry about that. I still would never equate a DII Championship with a DI championship. In college athletics exposure is everything. You just don't get it on the DII level.

See, I don't actually think that way - exposure is not everything. I've gone to tons of college sporting events at different places, from Big 5 basketball, to Penn St football games, to Delaware football games, to Temple football games, etc, and not once has my enjoyment of the activity been improved or diminished based upon the exposure of the event - I don't think I've ever sat there and wondered "gee, I hope the game I'm watching here on the East Coast is being picked up around the nation" - for me, watching in the stands, it matters not one iota what people outside the arena are doing. Heck, Temple football actually gets good exposure in terms of quantity and I don't think anyone would sanely suggest that that makes the Temple football experience any better - being one of a small handful in attendance at games here or there I can assure you it doesn't. One of the best basketball games I ever went to was a high school basketball game - Lower Merion versus Chester at the Palestra for the state semis in PA - the place was packed close to 10k people, it featured Kobe in his senior year against a great Chester team that would send numerous players to big time college careers (included John Linehan, the subsequent Big East Defender of the year for Providence) and the game was incredible with LM winning in OT. It wasn't broadcast on TV anywhere, even in the local area, ESPN didn't cover it at all, I'm sure it didn't merit a mention of any kind on any sports website, and it was incredible nonetheless. If you're a fan and if the experience is good at the game, it'll still be good whether you can watch it on Sportscenter or not.

[Boondocks]

GF
Having grown up in Florida I have been able to watch a number of AA Rangers baseball games in my home town. I know the value of going to a sporting event is not the coverage it is getting. But let's be real. When the NCAA tournament is going on, the fun of it is the exposure it gets. The fun of it is watching a team of unknown players become media darlings over night. That doesn't happen on the DII level. I am not taking away from sporting events that aren't televised on ESPN or ABC. I am simply saying that the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament is a unique experience that cannot be duplicated on the DII level.


PS - Just last week I was in Memphis and, though I am Cubs fan, had the pleasure of taking in a Redbirds game (AAA affiliate for the Cardinals) and it was one of the best baseball games I have been to. They hit four homeruns and destroyed the Omaha Royals. Don't think that one was on ESPN, but it was still a good time. ;-)

[GannonFan]

I don't doubt that, especially in the NCAA tourney, the exposure part of it is fun, but I don't think it would compare with the fun of watching your team play and beat the likes of UNC and UConn - especially if you were in the gym watching it. Sure, hearing the talking heads afterward talk about it is nice, but to me, it's the game and the atmosphere of the game that matters - all the rest is window dressing and wouldn't even exist if not for the game. I think the exposure part of it is more for the casual or absent fan who may not have followed the team before - to them, a lot of them don't see the game or care much about the game anyway, but they like seeing their team talked about. Hey, that's fine for them, more power to them, but I actually care more about the game and the atmosphere at the game than the hype. To each their own of course.

[Boondocks]

Don't get me wrong man. I was in the WSU section (had a connection) at the Verizon Center which happened to be right behind the Mason bench. It was THE greatest moment I have ever been a part of. But if you are trying to build a program into a national main stay the exposure is not JUST window dressing. It is a big draw for recruits.

[CommuterMike]

All I'm saying is that students of a DII school will get just as pumped about a DII championship as students at a DI school of a DI championship. It is all each school has, and if they love the school and love the sport, they will get excited. One of the most exciting moments of my life was winning the New England championship for high school marching bands. Is there any exposure? No. Does anyone outside of that stadium care about high school marching band? No. But I cared and thinking about it still gives me chills, just as those Mason fans when thinking about the final four.

[Boondocks]

CM
and I don't disagree with that. All I am saying is that in the game of college athletics and recruiting the DI accomplishments give you more leverage. I was pumped when my 12 year old brothers select basketball team went undefeated in the A-League championships. No one cared but me. But in todays environment when exposure and recognition play a HUGE part in recruiting and building success the DII championship means squat. I don't have any less respect for the teams that win it.

[GannonFan]

Then I think you're just confusing things Boon - I've not been to a DII basketball game (heck, at UD currently we would actually aspire to rise to DII level of play in basketball) but the national exposure they need to stay at the pinnacle of DII basketball is of course going to be less than a DI team - they don't need as much national exposure, if any, to maintain where they are. In DI basketball, it's just different as you do need the national exposure to remain a national power year in and year out. But as George Mason proved this year, and Gonzaga before them, and Richmond before them, you can make noise in DI basketball without the national exposure beforehand. It's only staying at the pinnacle of DI basketball that really needs the exposure.

[PhilaMonarchFan]

Boondocks,

Wow...., you really jumped all over my post about the D-2 championship ODU won in 1975. Perhaps I should have mentioned that in addition to being a graduate of Old Dominion University I also studied, post graduate, at GMU.....


Being a finalist in the championship game several years before, and then following up with the 1975 National Championship, was very exciting. The excitement carried on as O.D.U. transitioned from D-2 to D-1.

In their first or second year of D-1, O.D.U. played for the ECAC South title, which would (if memory serves) place them in the NCAA tournament. Their record was maligned, their wins dismissed, and the Monarchs were forced to play Georgetown AT Georgetown. The Hoyas never had a chance. They were whipped by the newcomers, powered by the play of Ronnie Valentine, Wilson Washington, Joey Caruthers and Jeff Fuhrman (sp).

That 1975 national championship was, as I wrote, an exciting time for the University, the students, and the region. And in the cocoon of the O.D.U. campus, the City of Norfolk, Hampton Roads, and the Tidewater region, that championship run received as much attention and created as much excitement, as GMU's wonderful run did this year.

I remember, after all these years.


You too will remember the excitement generated by your school's basketball team for many, many years. And you will wait, you will anticipate, and you will eagerly read each successive year's preseason report on your team.

Each season will start with the hope that the success of 2006 will be repeated and exceeded. And you'll continue to be a fan, for as long as you live, of George Mason basketball.

Congratulations to George Mason University.

Go Blue.

[Boondocks]

GF
I do see your point about distinguishing national recognition and having a solid program. I also agree gaining the highest level you can attain (no matter what level) is an accomplishment.

Phil - I am sorry for jumping all over you. I think, as I said before, my anger is more directed towards T-McGriddle who rubs me the wrong way. I do appologize to you and I appreciate your congratulations on the year Mason had. I will inturn congratulate you as you (as a grad student) were also a part of this university.

[118cc5]

I will use my own comparison. I was at Byrd Stadium in 1993 when my High School alma mater Bishop Ireton defeated PaulVI in football 35-14 to win the WCAC Division 2 Championship. It was nice but isn't even in the same galaxy as watching Mason beat UConn for a trip to the Final Four. Very few people outside of their area of interest gave a crap about ODU in '75 or Bishop Ireton in '93. People in Alaska saw GMU beat UConn and were stunned. There are really no comparisons on the mid major level. Mason's run to the Final Four is the greatest accomplishment by a mid major program since they started seeding teams in 1978.

[T-McGriddle]

Are you trying to compare a high school football state championship to a college DII National Championship? GMU posters have made some profoundly idiotic comparisons before, but if you're actually making that comparison, it certainly should win some kind of award.

[118cc5]

A High School D2 Championship in the Washington area is closer in media attention to a NCAA D2 championship than it is to a D1 Final Four appearance. Nothing really compares. If ODU had made such a run you would get my drift. Let's imagine for a second ODU made it to the NCAA Final FOur and Mason made the NIT semifinals. If you told someone on Prudhoe Bay, Alaska that you went to George Mason of the CAA, they would probably respond "Oh they are in ODU's conference". The fact of the matter is that the average Joe doesn't remember ODU for winning the '75 D2 Championship or the Mason women winning the '85 NCAA D1 Championship in Women's soccer. But they will remeber a tiny commuter school in Fairfax, Va playing in the 2006 Final Four.

[dukaholic]

As someone whose team has won "meaningless" national championships before, I feel obligated to chime in here.

A I-AA football championship is very similar to a DII championship - in fact, I'd say I-AA even has more media exposure (more games on ESPN as far as I know, at least). And that exposure amounts to NOTHING in the grand scheme of things. Albert Pujols is on ESPN more in one day than JMU was for the entire 4 weeks running up to the Finals (outside of the games broadcasted on ESPN).

While I loved our run, every second of it: it does not even come close to the hysteria and national pub that GMU received for their Final Four. While our stories were similar: nobody expected JMU to win that year, etc etc ... Mason managed to embody the spirit of America's everyman ... the underdog you could believe in. Madison, unfortunately, did not get noticed by 90+% of the country.

I-AA championships...DII championships....they're WONDERFUL and exciting for the fanbase - there's nothing like winning the last game of the season, and having that extra boost in your step all offseason. But they definitely don't get the national spotlight like the NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Tournament. And George Mason will be remembered for their run.

[T-McGriddle]

I haven't heard anyone trying to equate a DII National Championship to a Final Four run. However, only a complete moron would compare a high school state championship to a college national championship in any sport.

I agree that more people hear about the Final Four than the DII National Champions, but if you seriously think that people know more about Mason today than they did prior to their Final Four run, then you're drinking too much of that tainted Fairfax water. I've heard more people refer to Mason as George Washington or Georgetown during and after the NCAA run than people that actually got the name right. If people can't remember the name of the school, do you honestly think they remember that it's a " tiny commuter school in Fairfax, Va?" Answer: No.

Next year a fraction of basketball fans will remember GMU's run. Ten years from now less than 1% of our nations population could name any Final Four teams from 2006 other than Florida. In twenty years, people at GMU's campus will barely be able to recall the year of the historic run, if they remember anything at all. Accomplishments like this are fleeting, regardless of the level of national attention. In thirty years nobody outside of ODU or Mason will remember ODU's National Championship or Mason's Final Four run. Unfortunately no matter how big the stage is, people only remember champions, not semifinalists.

It may seem like the first topic of all conversations around the nation for a GMU fan, but believe me it's not. Your 15 minutes is over, and you're once again living in the shadows of the ACC and Big East. Nothing you do short of winning a National Championship will ever change that.

[Boondocks]

Two points: First I can name the teams that win the AAA Football championship in Virginia and I have no clue who has won any DII championships.

Second. TM you are truly a moron. Real baksetball fans don't forget stuff like what Mason did. Has anyone ever forgotten Chaminade? NO. I don't care what you think. I know that Norfolk water is pretty nasty too. bUT Mason's run can easily be equated with what Chaminade did. Have any real fans forgotten Indiana State and Penn from '79? NO. But those were over 20 years ago.


Hey wait a minute. Do you guys smell that? It is the stench of jealousy coming from Norfolk.


DRAIN :roll:

[gmutom]

It may seem like the first topic of all conversations around the nation for a GMU fan, but believe me it's not. Your 15 minutes is over, and you're once again living in the shadows of the ACC and Big East. Nothing you do short of winning a National Championship will ever change that.
TM, I'm not sure what's worse, that you're such an ass or that you take so much pride in being one. Mason will always be the barometer for mid-major teams from here on out, regardless of how jealous and angry that makes you. You really are going to have to set your bitterness aside, because you'll be hearing about us every NCAA Tournament until somebody matches or betters our feat. (I wouldn't hold my breath if I was you.)

And while you're grasping that concept, you might want to come to grips with the fact that ODU will always be known as a women's basketball and sailing school. The only publicity your men's program will ever get is for being in the same conference as The George Mason University. 8)

[Johnny Rifle]

T-McGriddle should have drowned in his own urine by now. Who started this thread again?

[White Noise]

TM I thought Baghdad Bob was a freaking dumb @$$ but you have just topped the cake. To say people now know less about GMU before the touney run just goes to show you what kind of education you get at ODU.

I suppose you were not in Dayton or Indy to see and hear almost EVERYONE from schools across the country go up to Mason fans and say congrats.

I also suppose you don't have a first grade education because if you did on a weekly basis major sports papers reference Mason's run in comparison to other teams needing to make a great run.

If you think people still don't know about Mason and our "tiny commuter school" (largest in VA) than you must be drinking the Grade A ODU water. See what you cannot stand is that Mason is IN SCHOOL. We are now the Giant Killers and we are now the team people want to play.

Look how hot Mason mech is selling across the nation buddy. Look at our schedule next year. I would venture to say that For the "one percent" of the population who will remember about our run next year would love to be watch our games vs UCLA and G'Town.

When you spout out crap you need to back it up. Otherwise enjoy playing with your dinky NCAA tournment ****s, I need to go stare at my Final Four poster for a moment. Be gone.

[Point Guard]

It may seem like the first topic of all conversations around the nation for a GMU fan, but believe me it's not. Your 15 minutes is over, and you're once again living in the shadows of the ACC and Big East. Nothing you do short of winning a National Championship will ever change that.
TM, I'm not sure what's worse, that you're such an ass or that you take so much pride in being one. Mason will always be the barometer for mid-major teams from here on out, regardless of how jealous and angry that makes you. You really are going to have to set your bitterness aside, because you'll be hearing about us every NCAA Tournament until somebody matches or betters our feat. (I wouldn't hold my breath if I was you.)

And while you're grasping that concept, you might want to come to grips with the fact that ODU will always be known as a women's basketball and sailing school. The only publicity your men's program will ever get is for being in the same conference as The George Mason University. 8)

Sports Center this Morning: "only difference between March Madness and May Madness; Joakim Noah jumping around and that the MVC didn’t send 4 teams to the payoffs". ESPN has even forgotten the run.

As much as you think your run made any difference 8 weeks after the tourney....its over. The rest of the country never heard of GM and already forgot.

You guys are freaking hilarious. Thinking you are picking up 4 and 5 star recruits and becoming a household name nationally.

Too funny!

[gmutom]

As much as you think your run made any difference 8 weeks after the tourney....its over. The rest of the country never heard of GM and already forgot.
Hey, when are they handing out the NIT Final 4 rings? Do they come with the box of Cracker Jacks, or do you have to buy the candy separately? :lol:

[baller444]

I can't stand "gimmick" posters who always stick to character. What is this professional wrestling?

[Point Guard]

Showing your true colors.

You're no different then the rest of the rolls.

[baller444]

Like yourself?

[Boondocks]

GMU is a more recognizable household name than ODU.



- My God the jealousy is awful. You guys are so bitter. It should have been you right? If it was you EVERYONE would have remembered you guys and you would be on your way to becoming a national power. Much like you dominated DII basketball back in the 70's. :roll:

[Point Guard]

Just pointing out the obvious, your 15 minutes is over.

Back to the 4th or 5th tier in your area and forgotten across the country. GM who?

[ACW]

Just pointing out the obvious, your 15 minutes is over.

Back to the 4th or 5th tier in your area and forgotten across the country. GM who?
Oh really? Then why are we mentioned (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/06/AR2006050601144.html) with the other locals?

He should not discount the importance of Maryland football and basketball, and the teams at Virginia, Virginia Tech and Navy and the basketball teams at Georgetown, George Washington and George Mason.

[T-McGriddle]

Notice the hierarchy in that quote ACW. It further proves my point. Mason was yet again the last team mentioned.

I know you guys want to pass off my observations as petty jealousy, but you couldn't be more wrong. I was very proud of Mason's run--still am. However, it doesn't negate the fact that Mason's run was simply the school's 15 minutes of fame. Now you've fallen back into obscurity with the rest of the CAA teams.

Notice that it's only GMU fans arguing the lasting notoriety of your run. Don't you think that if you were truly a household name along the likes of Gonzaga, Duke, Indiana, UCLA and the rest of the NCAA jugernauts that posters from other schools would be rushing to your defense? Their silence is likely a confirmation that outside of the bubble surrounding GMU, your NCAA run was nothing more than a flash in the pan.

[Point Guard]

Just pointing out the obvious, your 15 minutes is over.

Back to the 4th or 5th tier in your area and forgotten across the country. GM who?
Oh really? Then why are we mentioned (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/06/AR2006050601144.html) with the other locals?

He should not discount the importance of Maryland football and basketball, and the teams at Virginia, Virginia Tech and Navy and the basketball teams at Georgetown, George Washington and George Mason.

Yawn. Go find more research to try and validate your points. Really sad you goofballs keep trying and really sad you have to keep trying.

By the way, I love bandwagon fans, you'll be gone just as fast as your showed up.

While you're doing research, continue your Evans search. If you have to post a question on his contributions to the GM program; never mind, you'll be gone after the third loss.

:lol:

[ACW]

By the way, I love bandwagon fans, you'll be gone just as fast as your showed up.

While you're doing research, continue your Evans search. If you have to post a question on his contributions to the GM program; never mind, you'll be gone after the third loss.

Okay, first of all, I'M NOT A BANDWAGON FAN YOU MORON! I've gone to EVERY home game (with the exception of two) the past three seasons (including last season, which wasn't so great), I went to the CAA tourney games this year, and I went to all 5 NCAA games.

And second, the only reason I didn't know so much about Evans was because it was BEFORE MY TIME.

Third, the only reason we have to "keep trying" is because of dumbasses like you.

And T-Mac, the fact that Mason was the last school mentioned-you're reading WAY too much into that.

[Point Guard]

By the way, I love bandwagon fans, you'll be gone just as fast as your showed up.

While you're doing research, continue your Evans search. If you have to post a question on his contributions to the GM program; never mind, you'll be gone after the third loss.

Okay, first of all, I'M NOT A BANDWAGON FAN YOU MORON! I've gone to EVERY home game (with the exception of two) the past three seasons (including last season, which wasn't so great), I went to the CAA tourney games this year, and I went to all 5 NCAA games.

And second, the only reason I didn't know so much about Evans was because it was BEFORE MY TIME.

Third, the only reason we have to "keep trying" is because of dumbasses like you.

And T-Mac, the fact that Mason was the last school mentioned-you're reading WAY too much into that.

Sorry Pal, Thanks for proving my point.

If you suggest your ignorance regarding Evans was because he played 5 years ago...you're a bandwagon fan.

Same reason your attendance was a joke and the same reason the "fans" of GM won't be there next year when you start losing games.

You're the MORON!

[CommuterMike]

I was berated and called a bad fan of college basketball in general for not knowing who Jim Valvano was and that was over 20 years ago. 5 years is nothing. If anyone on the Hofstra boards asked who Speedy Claxton was or what he did, they would certainly be looked down upon, possibly as a bandwagoneer.

[PDGL Hoops]

I was berated and called a bad fan of college basketball in general for not knowing who Jim Valvano was and that was over 20 years ago. 5 years is nothing. If anyone on the Hofstra boards asked who Speedy Claxton was or what he did, they would certainly be looked down upon, possibly as a bandwagoneer.

Before next years Jimmy V Classic make sure you check out Valvano's ESPY speech when Vital and Coach K had to help him on stage. Not a dry eye in the house listening to the words of a dying man. They show it every year during the games.

[ACW]

...you're a bandwagon fan.

If you define bandwagon fan as someone who's gone to nearly all the home games for the past three seasons (yes, even the ones after the Creighton loss), and will continue to go to as many as possible, then fine, call me a bandwagon fan.

If you define it as someone who only started supporting the team near the end of the season, then no.

[WaterHawk11]

I haven't heard anyone trying to equate a DII National Championship to a Final Four run. However, only a complete moron would compare a high school state championship to a college national championship in any sport.

I agree that more people hear about the Final Four than the DII National Champions, but if you seriously think that people know more about Mason today than they did prior to their Final Four run, then you're drinking too much of that tainted Fairfax water. I've heard more people refer to Mason as George Washington or Georgetown during and after the NCAA run than people that actually got the name right. If people can't remember the name of the school, do you honestly think they remember that it's a " tiny commuter school in Fairfax, Va?" Answer: No.

Next year a fraction of basketball fans will remember GMU's run. Ten years from now less than 1% of our nations population could name any Final Four teams from 2006 other than Florida. In twenty years, people at GMU's campus will barely be able to recall the year of the historic run, if they remember anything at all. Accomplishments like this are fleeting, regardless of the level of national attention. In thirty years nobody outside of ODU or Mason will remember ODU's National Championship or Mason's Final Four run. Unfortunately no matter how big the stage is, people only remember champions, not semifinalists.

It may seem like the first topic of all conversations around the nation for a GMU fan, but believe me it's not. Your 15 minutes is over, and you're once again living in the shadows of the ACC and Big East. Nothing you do short of winning a National Championship will ever change that.


I believe many basketball fans will be remembering Mason's run to make the final 4 next year and in 10 yrs.
20 years after U Richmond was a 15 seed and beat a 2 seed it is still talked about. Valpo's run and miracle shot has a good chance of being replaced by an 11 seed from Fairfax,,
Not only will the people on this board being talking about it, but every year at bracket time, the whole country will be recalling GMU's run, and how they ruined sheets to the deepest depth ever,, no mid major had made it that far and done that much damage on bracket sheets.
Even in DC, in 20 yrs, there will be more talk of Mason's final 4, than Georgetown's actual championship.
TM you are a shallow person ,

[gmutom]

I believe many basketball fans will be remembering Mason's run to make the final 4 next year and in 10 yrs.
20 years after U Richmond was a 15 seed and beat a 2 seed it is still talked about. Valpo's run and miracle shot has a good chance of being replaced by an 11 seed from Fairfax,,
Not only will the people on this board being talking about it, but every year at bracket time, the whole country will be recalling GMU's run, and how they ruined sheets to the deepest depth ever,, no mid major had made it that far and done that much damage on bracket sheets.
Even in DC, in 20 yrs, there will be more talk of Mason's final 4, than Georgetown's actual championship.
TM you are a shallow person ,
Waterhawk, thank you for reiterating what everybody on these boards with the exception of TM and Point Guard already realized. I appreciate you coming forward as a fan from another CAA school. It's class posters like you that far outweigh the trolls like them that have nothing better to do than piss on the accomplishments of their fellow conference teams.

[Point Guard]

I believe many basketball fans will be remembering Mason's run to make the final 4 next year and in 10 yrs.
20 years after U Richmond was a 15 seed and beat a 2 seed it is still talked about. Valpo's run and miracle shot has a good chance of being replaced by an 11 seed from Fairfax,,
Not only will the people on this board being talking about it, but every year at bracket time, the whole country will be recalling GMU's run, and how they ruined sheets to the deepest depth ever,, no mid major had made it that far and done that much damage on bracket sheets.
Even in DC, in 20 yrs, there will be more talk of Mason's final 4, than Georgetown's actual championship.
TM you are a shallow person ,
Waterhawk, thank you for reiterating what everybody on these boards with the exception of TM and Point Guard already realized. I appreciate you coming forward as a fan from another CAA school. It's class posters like you that far outweigh the trolls like them that have nothing better to do than piss on the accomplishments of their fellow conference teams.

Are you freaking kidding me? Are you the pot or the kettle?

You're the biggest troll on this board.



As much as you think your run made any difference 8 weeks after the tourney....its over. The rest of the country never heard of GM and already forgot.
Hey, when are they handing out the NIT Final 4 rings? Do they come with the box of Cracker Jacks, or do you have to buy the candy separately? :lol:

[Point Guard]

GM TOM IS A TROLL

[Point Guard]

I believe many basketball fans will be remembering Mason's run to make the final 4 next year and in 10 yrs.
20 years after U Richmond was a 15 seed and beat a 2 seed it is still talked about. Valpo's run and miracle shot has a good chance of being replaced by an 11 seed from Fairfax,,
Not only will the people on this board being talking about it, but every year at bracket time, the whole country will be recalling GMU's run, and how they ruined sheets to the deepest depth ever,, no mid major had made it that far and done that much damage on bracket sheets.
Even in DC, in 20 yrs, there will be more talk of Mason's final 4, than Georgetown's actual championship.
TM you are a shallow person ,
Waterhawk, thank you for reiterating what everybody on these boards with the exception of TM and Point Guard already realized. I appreciate you coming forward as a fan from another CAA school. It's class posters like you that far outweigh the trolls like them that have nothing better to do than piss on the accomplishments of their fellow conference teams.

Are you freaking kidding me? Are you the pot or the kettle?

You're the biggest troll on this board.



As much as you think your run made any difference 8 weeks after the tourney....its over. The rest of the country never heard of GM and already forgot.
Hey, when are they handing out the NIT Final 4 rings? Do they come with the box of Cracker Jacks, or do you have to buy the candy separately? :lol:

[gmutom]

Are you freaking kidding me? Are you the pot or the kettle?

You're the biggest troll on this board.
Let's analyze this theory:

gmutom: Poster of the Year, 2005; Poster of the Year runner-up, 2006
Point Guard: a lock for future Drain Poster of the Year if fellow ODU fan TM ever stops posting.

I'll stake my reputation on these boards against either one of you clowns any day of the week. I really like 99-percent of ODU posters, but it's idiots like the two of you that really give your school a bad name. And if either one of you had any basketeball IQ whatsoever, you wouldn't even attempt to take away from Mason's recent accomplishments or future historical standing in the NCAA tournament due to nothing more than pettiness and jealousy.

[Point Guard]

GM Tom, your accolades mean nothing, hell JR received the poster of the year for a few photo shop posts.

Either way, you're a moron and as always, talk out of both sides of your mouth.

You piss on ODU more than anyone pisses on GM.

What a tool and troll.
:roll:

[CommuterMike]

I know I can be bad sometimes but these guys make me look really good. I can sleep at night knowing that I will probably never be a drain poster of any year as long as I don't go overboard.

They have some decent points sometimes but have no idea how to present them in a way where people would actually be willing to listen.

Final four run, plain and simple, is memorable to the people that matter. Average person may have a vague recollection of George Mason, but not enough to really make much of a difference. College basketball fans will remember it, but most of them will not hold it as close to their heart as we wish they would. It will never, ever be forgotten by George Mason fans, students, faculty, and alumni. Residents of Fairfax and surrounding communities and fans of fellow CAA schools will also not forget for a long time. I know people are still talking about it in the context of "The George Mason of..." my guess is that will die out soon enough, likely in fear of no one understanding the point being made. Pretty soon, broadcasters and reporters will stop referring to Mason until the college baskeball season starts up again. Then it will probably revisited frequently. It will definitely be enough to jog peoples memories, but not enough to make a lasting impression. I've said this before, it means nothing to anyone I know up here in Massachusetts. No ties to Virginia, no love for the underdog, and no time to really care really says it all. Unless you are a hardcore college basketball fan, specifically a fan of a mid-major, it is hard to really understand the impact Mason made. If I was a fan a team like Indiana or Oklahoma, would I really care that Mason made it to the final four? Most likely not. People that can identify with the accomplishment will remember, thats what it really comes down to. It made a huge, huge impact on college basketball. I believe that. Up and coming high school players may look at this and realize that going to a mid-major is not career suicide. They will have a shot at the national spotlight even if they don't go to to a major program. Who knows what impact this really had. However, most of it is invisible. The impact made is intangible, not able to be seen. Only people with a good understanding of how the system used to work, and how it works after George Mason, will really understand what changed because of this. I believe this is a fair assesment, as I am pretty sure I have made these points before and Mason "haters" and fans alike were willing to somewhat agree.

[gmutom]

Either way, you're a moron and as always, talk out of both sides of your mouth.
Could be worse. I could talk out of my ass like you and TM. :oops:

CommuterMike, you bring up many very valid points. I don't think for a minute that people will remember us on their own. Heck, most people around the country probably can't name of player on our Final Four team. But that's not the point, and that's what imbeciles like TM and Point Guard are missing. People will remember us simply because the media will not allow them to forget. Much like Chaminade's victory over UVa is still remembered 20 years later as the single biggest upset in college basketball, last season's Mason team will be the barometer for Cindarella runs in the NCAA Tournament.

Every year the tournament is played, Greg Gumbel, Clark Kellogg and Seth Davis will debate over "Who is this year's George Mason?" This will also happen in every newspaper, magazine and web site around the country. And that will be the case until somebody else comes along to match our accomplishment or better it by making the finals. As much as a select few fans don't want to admit it, the country will be hearing about the 2005-06 Patriots for many, many years to come. And there is unfortunately nothing anybody can do to stop it. It really is bigger than all of us. :wink:

[Point Guard]

Either way, you're a moron and as always, talk out of both sides of your mouth.
Could be worse. I could talk out of my ass like you and TM. :oops:

CommuterMike, you bring up many very valid points. I don't think for a minute that people will remember us on their own. Heck, most people around the country probably can't name of player on our Final Four team. But that's not the point, and that's what imbeciles like TM and Point Guard are missing. People will remember us simply because the media will not allow them to forget. Much like Chaminade's victory over UVa is still remembered 20 years later as the single biggest upset in college basketball, last season's Mason team will be the barometer for Cindarella runs in the NCAA Tournament.

Every year the tournament is played, Greg Gumbel, Clark Kellogg and Seth Davis will debate over "Who is this year's George Mason?" This will also happen in every newspaper, magazine and web site around the country. And that will be the case until somebody else comes along to match our accomplishment or better it by making the finals. As much as a select few fans don't want to admit it, the country will be hearing about the 2005-06 Patriots for many, many years to come. And there is unfortunately nothing anybody can do to stop it. It really is bigger than all of us. :wink:

Yawn. Sorry, putzboy, you talk out of your ass more than anyone on this board. I can't wait to drive down to DC for the GM ODU game next year and meet you.

You're a ridiculous joke.

[PhilaMonarchFan]

Well put, Commuter Mike.

Those of us whose schools are affiliated w/ the C.A.A. will always remember that a relative unknown university from our conference made a splash in the big pool of the NCAA tournament and made a name for themselves in the process.

In addition to Hofstra fans remembering, what about those from Creighton too? And those fans too from the few other schools who managed to actually beat our conference's representative to the Final Four?

Basketball junkies will remember G M U's run for a long time. The players from Mason brought an incredible amount of positive publicity to their school, and recognition of the school has been heightened. Heck, they brought recognition to our entire conference, Hofstra especially.



So, in addition to Morris of Gonzaga, what else is Gonzaga known for?

[Monarch Nation]

Good God, I thought this stupid pile of sh!t thread had died.

Who the hell is responsible for bringing it to life again so the idiots from both sides can take exaggerated pot shots at each other?

[bigblue1975]

Good God, I thought this stupid pile of sh!t thread had died.

Who the hell is responsible for bringing it to life again so the idiots from both sides can take exaggerated pot shots at each other?

Reading my mind and well put my friend.