St. Bonaventure Fan

[bonafan]

I attend St.Bonaventure univeristy and have been a life time fan, Kevin Mickens will do nothing against us this year and we might be down because of Jan Van Breda Kolf, but coach Solomon will have his players ready. You can talk to us on http://www.bonniesbandwagon.org

Go Bonas!!!!

[MasonHoopzfan]

is your team even going to show up? or are they going to forfiet the entire season????

[hemloche]

what a crap site...it is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to cluttered to be able to read anything....I'd rather stay here but thanks for the invite.

[dr. gunnie]

I know a guy who just got his certificate from the Sally Struther's school of TV/VCR repair... does that qualify him to play on your basketball team next year?

[MasonHoopzfan]

i just talked to a guy who said mackens(sp?) was a p#@@*, was going to play at saint b but backed down cause he couldnt handle the big league play of the a-10 :roll:

[dr. gunnie]

an old message from the St Bonnies board:

I'm working a camp locally(Burke, Va.) and ran across two SBU tidbits. First, one of our guest counselors is a local player at George Mason Univ. by the name of Kevin Mickens, a former signee. The young man could not be nicer. He would have helped in the paint; a solid 6'8" and inhales rebounds.

it sounds like they are bitter.

[bonafan]

Im not bitter im just more less confused to why a player would want to attend a crapy school such as George Mason, when he could attend a great school in St. Bonaventure and play against top competetion. Good Luck!! But Lets Go Bonnies...the 5th toughest arena to play in...Good thing we are playin at Va.

[gmusig03]

How could you even try to talk trash when the name of your school sounds like an erection?

[MasonHoopzfan]

crappy school like george mason :lol: :lol: that's a good one.

[ZoneAdmin]

St. Bonerdentures?

Anyone know how we stack up? Sears Cup? US News Rankings? (might be good, I actually have no idea)

[The old PF]

Are there any welding degrees left on your team? The bottom of the A-10 is NOT better than the top of the CAA. UR was in the CAA and has been fairly competitive in the mighty A-10(just as good if not better than the bonnies).

[bonafan]

Bonaventure isnt at the bottom of the league...if you know anything about college basketball you would know about the 1970 final 4 the great tradition and history of pro talent and players...most recently the 2000 ncaa game against kentucky...also besides last years fiasco we have gone to post season play for like 5 consecutive years...what about george mason...is he related to perry mason

[patriot lawdog]

Hey Bonadonkey, if you knew anything you would know that there aren't any more Bob Lanier's left to take your team to the Final Four. It's just hilarious to me that someone from the laughing stock (literarly) is talking smack. If I go to ITT Tech, I qualify to get tenure as a professor at St. Bonny's, right?

[The old PF]

This is TOO easy:
ATLANTIC 10 CONFERENCE
. CONF. OVERALL
EAST W L W L
St. Joseph's 12 4 23 7
Rhode Island 10 6 20 11
Temple 10 6 18 16
Massachusetts 6 10 12 18
Fordham 3 13 4 24
St. Bonaventure 1 15 7 22
WEST W L W L
Xavier 15 1 26 6
Dayton 14 2 25 6
Richmond 10 6 16 13
La Salle 6 10 13 16
Geo Washington 5 11 12 17
Duquesne 4 12 10 20


Even awful Duquense(who GMU beat last year) had a better record. I'm getting a sense of deja vu w/ these St. Bonaventure fans. They are awful similar to the former pariahs of the CAA, the UR fans. And to further show your stupidity you asked who was George Mason?

George Mason was a founding father of the United States. He wrote the VA Bill of Rights which the US Bill of Rights was modeled after. He was in Philly in 1776 for the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

Now PLEASE disappear you drain.

[Pablo]

For the last 5 seasons, St. Bonaventure has a record of 83-64 (56.5%) and appeared in the post-season 3 times: NCAA (1) & the NIT (2). During the same period, GMU has a record of 91-56 (61.9%) and also appeared in the post-season 3 times: NCAA (2) & the NIT (1).

[JMUSuperfan2000]

Im not bitter im just more less confused to why a player would want to attend a crapy school such as George Mason, when he could attend a great school in St. Bonaventure and play against top competetion.

Um, yeah, right, uhuh, sure. Has the A10 done anything since UMass with Marcus Camby and the Puerto Rican boys? I wouldn't exactly call the A10 "top competition" these days. This is coming from someone who actually likes GW and Xavier. I'm sorry, the league just isn't that good any more.

Not that I like sticking up for Mason or anything, but I'd much rather go there than St. Bernardaventure.

[TJ Reaper]

What is a St. Bonaventure? I don't think it's a good thing that I first heard of your school on ESPN when your school violated NCAA rules. How can you come and talk trash when you are over there eating the same damn garbage? Look at your record. Look at GMU's record. They are SOLID and are EXPECTED to compete EVERY year. They were chosen as the preseason #1 in the CAA this year. Who the HELL told you that SB University or College whatever yall are can compete with GMU? And I ask again...


What is a St. Bonaventure??

[hemloche]

This guy had the balls to IM me last night saying Go Bonnies. Hmmm let's see the game is being played at the Pat Dome where the Pat's are what like 60 somthing and 10 over the last 5 years. All I have to say is don't sing it, bring it.

H~

[118cc5]

"Crappy" GMU is harder to get through than Harvard. St Bonniebitch you are a puppy and stop barking at a big dog like Mason.

[bonafan]

once againg what conference is the caa...and george mason doesnt compare to the beautiful st. bonas... name one person who can stop marques green, please tell me that one...he is going to be a top consideration for best player under 6ft...if you dont know anything about him cuz you play in a crappy division look at his stats, and that in itself doesnt say enough about my man...

go bonnies

[Pablo]

bonafan,

I suggest that you read my post for the thread "Starting 5 for Mason Next Season" for the answer to your question.

[The old PF]

I recall watching the 6th place team in the CAA, ODU (9-9 in CAA play last year) wiping the Smith Center floor w/ GW of the might A-10. Once you strip away the upper tier of the A-10 there is not much difference between the 2 conferences.

[gmusig03]

bonerfan, college basketball is played in conferences, not divisions,

[bonafan]

Actually moron, college basketball is played at divisions, for example division 1 division 2 and division 3, then you have juco schools as well... i wasnt sure if we were going to be playing a division 3 school in George mason....haha im way too good for you guys....marques green do you have any real answers yet???????

[JMUSuperfan2000]

Why are you guys even wasting your time with this Bonnie pretender? This guy is worse than MaineJeff during football season! He has nothing relevant or coherent to say, so why not just ignore his trifling attempts at banter? If he had anything intelligent to say then he would've said it by now. :roll:

[118cc5]

How did St. Bonaventure do in its "superior" conference tournament last season? I recorded all the scores of all Division 1 conference tournaments last year. I didn't see the name "St. Bonaventure" in any update. St. Bonaventure must be a Division 3 school or a member of the NAIA.

[Duke Dawg]

name one person who can stop marques green, please tell me that one.

Terry Reynolds.


Dec 1, 2001 : St Bonnie 82 Toledo 76

Marques Green - 16 pts, 4 rbs, 4 assts, 4 fouls
Terry Reynolds - 14 pts, 5 rbs, 1 asst, 2 fouls

Hmm.... Looks pretty even to me.

http://utrockets.ocsn.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/120101aab.html

[GS]

guess he told you..good one duke dawg!

[cornell-law-patriot]

Somebody asked for a tale of the tape between the two schools, so here is is (I used infor from both US News and the Princeton Review)... here's the good and the bad for both schools

ST. BONER

Ranked #23 in Tier #1 of Northern Masters Level Univs (CAA member Towson is #50)
(schools rated higher in the Northern region, in order from 1-22: Villanova, Providence, Fairfield, Loyola(MD), Scranton, Col. of NJ, Rochester Inst. of Tech., Bentley, Ithaca Col., St. Michael's (VT), Alfred, Hood, Simmons, SUNY-Geneseo, Quinnipiac, St. Joseph's, Manhattan, Marist, Emerson, LaSalle, LeMayne, and Gallaudet)

Undergrad Enrollment - 2229
Avg. SAT - 1054
Avg. HS GPA - 3.10
Student/Faculty Ratio - 15:1
Diversity - Ranked 117/125 Northern Masters Univs (Largest Min. Group - African-Americans @ 1%)

GRAD SCHOOLS
Business - no
Education - no
Engineering - no
Law - no
Medicine - no

PRINCETON REVIEW RATINGS
Selectivity - 76
Academics - 75
Campus Life - 82

THE GOOD
#19 - Classroom Discussions Encouraged
#3 - Happy Students
#2 - Best College Radio

THE BAD
#13 - Little Race/Class Interaction
#5 - Worst Food


MASON

Tier #3 of National Doctoral Univs (CAA bretheren ODU, VCU, Drexel, and Hofstra are also in Tier 3)

Undergrad Enrollment - 16687
Avg. SAT - 1076
Avg. HS GPA - 3.26
Student/Faculty Ratio - 16:1
Diversity - Ranked 41/229 Northern Masters Univs (Largest Min. Group - Asians @ 17%)

GRAD SCHOOLS
Business - yes
Education - yes
Engineering - yes
Law - yes (Tier #1 - #40/185 overall)
Medicine - no

PRINCETON REVIEW RATINGS
Selectivity - 82
Academics - 78
Campus Life - 75

THE GOOD
#18 - Diverse Student Population
#14 - Lots of Beer
#9 - Major Greek Scene (don't really know if that is good or true)
#9 - Best College Newspaper

THE BAD
#8 - Students Dissatisfied w/ Financial Aid
#18 - Don't Inhale (subject to interpretation as to good or bad)
#8 - No hard liquor


So there's your tale of the tape... and if you include the fact the Mason is located in civilization and St. Boner's is in bumf*ck upstate NY (and this is coming from a person who just spent 3 years in Ithaca.... the SBU web site says that the school is "nestled in the Enchanted Mountains"... ain't that cute)


OTHER CAA TIDBITS

JMU
#15 - Students Never Study
#17 - Great Food

DREXEL
#9 - Students Disssatisfied w/ Financial Aid
#19 - Long Lines and Red Tape
#3 - Lots of Hard Liquor
#7 - Major Greek Scene
#3 - Worst Dorms
#2 - Ugly Campus
#14 - Best College Radio
#4 - Intramural Not Popular

HOFSTRA
#5 - Long Lines and Red Tape
#14 - Students Not Happy

WILLIAM & MARY
#20 - Lots of Beer
#9 - Don't Inhale
#17 - Intramural Popular
#9 - Best College Theater
#9 - Good Town-Gown Relations

[118cc5]

The Princeton review always puts Princeton at #1.

I looked up the Mason review and found these overall ranks from some 3,000 colleges

#1 George Mason University
#2,993 Saint Bonaventue University for Remedial Studies

[bonafan]

St. Bonaventure is still a much better school all the way around....and the princeton review had us as the #7 party school just a year ago...so if you want to base information on the ever changing princeton review go ahead...it changes so much every year....all i can say is St. Bonaventure is at a completely different level than you...face the facts...

go bonnies

[GS]

did u guys know our AD tom o.connor coached at st bonerdickture...

[patriot lawdog]

This guy comes on our board and questions our knowledge and then basically states that we suck b/c St. Bonny's is better. Has anyone seen Heywood so we can have some intelligent conversation?

[Pablo]

gs,

Tom O'Connor was the AD at Loyola (MD) College (1976-86), Santa Clara (1986-92), & at St. Bonaventure (1992-94) before taking the GMU job. He was also the head basketball coach at Dartmouth (1972-74) & Loyola (1974-76).

Regarding Marques Green and the other returning Bonnies, IMO they should have had their scholarships revoked for refusing to finish the season.

[JMUSuperfan2000]

Hmm, the Princeton Review had St. Bonnie ranked for top party schools....PLAYBOY had JMU ranked in its top 25 party schools. I think I'd rather take the Playboy ranking on that one, thanks. 8) (To go along with Patriot Law's comparisons) :wink:

[bonafan]

you might have hotter girls but your team still cant play ball, and for a small rural college we know how to drink and we have some hot ladies...tom oconnor is irrelevant the fact is you cant stop us on the basketball court and your caa conference sucks...we get more than one team in the ncaa tourney a year usually 3 or 4 and sometimes get consideration for 5, while the mighty caa gets only one automatic bid

[MasonHoopzfan]

we'll see who has the better b-ball team this year now wont we?? i know we can back up our trash talking 'cause mason is going to demolish saint b.

[Mr. Farcus]

bonafan,

Tom O'Connor is not irrelevant. The fact that he used St. Bonn as a stepping stone to get to GMU and not the other way around says alot. If SB was such a respectable school, I have a feeling O'Connor would have stuck around. He obviously saw bigger and better things happening at GMU and in the CAA.

I question your relationship with SB. You sound to me like some bored jerk*ff trying to stir the pot and make things interesting around here.

You bring nothing to the table.

*yawn*

[bonafan]

I actually challenge your intelligence on Tom Oconnor and wonder how well the Bonnies did with him as a part of their atheletics program. Since his departure the bonnies have competed in every aspect of the atlantic 10...not just basketball...think about it the bonnies only want the best

[cornell-law-patriot]

This coming from a guy whose school was the national disgrace of college basketball last year...

[bonafan]

Hey law man, dont point your finger at the whole university, when only a couple people were involved with the scandal...Jamil Terrell is an excellent young man who had nothing to do with what happend.. A greedy president, a coach who would do anything to win and the presidents son were involved...get the facts straight those 3 men in particular were the national disgrace...




Go bonas!!!!

[The old PF]

No moron, your school was a disgrace. I don't care who the offending players, coaches, AD's and President's were. The Bonnies had a player w/ a "welding" degree on your team. The top tiers of the University and the athletic dept knew. The A-10 considered booting the bonnies from the coference. The Bonnies were a nat'l joke and I agree that the heartless players who tanked the season deserved to have the s-ships taken away.

[118cc5]

Mason is not a top 25 party school because we are a real school. Being ranked #7 in partying means a school must be a breeze to get through.

[theburtonrules]

youre damn right it is. GO BONAS!!!

[Duke Dawg]

Hey Boners fans,

I just happened to browse through your Bandwagon (what a dreadful setup for a board :oops: ) and noticed your top golfer has transferred from the might juggernaut that is St Bonaventure to James Madison.

Now why would someone leave such an esteemed athletic and academic power like St Bonaventure for a lowly, uneducated southern CAA school like James Madison?

Hmmm.... :roll:

[hemloche]

though with all the fun that St. Bonadenture had last year and all the coruption with the hierarchy (coaches, presidents, etc.) I would be truly surprised if the NCAA doesn't drop the death penalty on your Men's BBall program. Other programs have gotten it for less. You are also acting like that guard you keep tauting is the second coming of Michael Jordan or Bob Lanier. The only time I have ever heard of him is when you mentioned his name and his "god-like" prowess on the basketball court. I have been a college hoops fan for prolly more years than you've been on this planet and I only became a GMU fan in the late 80's when I went there for college.

[patriot lawdog]

What I find most hilarious is that even with all the cheating that went on, that team still wasn't any good! You'd figure if you could get guys in on welding degrees your team would be better. Just go to show you that cheaters never win.

And by the way the A-10 never gets consideration for more than 3 teams. Those teams who got in last year didn't do anything. "Powerhouse" Xavier upset by Maryland. Dayton lost in first round to a 13 seed and St. Joe's lost in the first round to Auburn.

[Mr. Jablomi]

Why are you guys wasting your time with this kid? It's like a 12 year old got on his father's computer.
I like the A10, I have a wife, brother, and father that went to A10 schools. Bottom line, it's a better basketball conference than the CAA. The CAA is a MUCH better all around athletic conference, but since were talking hoops, I'll stick to that. The A10 is better, but really top heavy.
If you took the majority of A10 teams, and the majority of CAA teams, and put them together, there'd be no difference. With the Big East, ACC, SEC,etc, the bottom teams would step right in and win alot of games, but the A10 is not like that. URI, UMass, SBU, GW, Lasalle, Duquesne, UR,...they are all CAA level programs.

[hemloche]

Heywood,

that is exactly what we are trying to tell this nincompoop but he doesn't seem to want to listen even though he is outnumbered 2000 to 1. Besides its the off season and we're having a little fun. :twisted:


H~

[118cc5]

OT reply: Hemloche, I saw that icon and immediately made a run for the refridgerator for some food...er...Guiness. ;)

[Pablo]

During Tom O'Connor's tenure as AD at the respective schools, Loyola (men's soccer), Santa Clara (men's soccer), & GMU (indoor track & field) won a team national championship. In addition, Santa Clara & GMU were national runner-up in men's soccer & outdoor track & field, respectively. Only St. Bonaventure failed to accomplish either of those feats during his tenure there.

[bonafan]

when are you morons from gmu gonna realize that you can compete on our level seriously...also im a good friend with jay lindell the golfer who recently transfered, jay wants to play golf and in cold wny its kind of hard...thats the real reason...tom occonor sucks


go bonnies

[patriot lawdog]

Yes we CAN compete with you. Come on, at least spell the most important word in your post right. It's too easy!

[bonafan]

Cant compete cant compete cant compete, you guys are too easy and get recruits who should play division 3 ball




later gaters

go bonnies

[billthebighawkfan]

GMU is better than the Bonnies right now. Give your team some time and they might have something but GMU has a good team coming in this year and will be tough to beat.

[Mr. Jablomi]

GMU will walk all over SBU, especially at home. This "debate" is not worth having, as GMU will have it all over the criminals from NY.
Now, if it were a "weld off", GMU may be in trouble.

[TJ Reaper]

LMAO!!!!! LOL, HEYWOOD, U KNOW U WRONG FOR THAT ONE :)

Hey, or if it were "who can make the best snowman", GMU would loose for SURE....

[The old PF]

But isn't this thread supposed to be about basketball??????

[118cc5]

I'm turning it into a baseball thread. The Mets are breaking my heart. Today 39-53. Tomorrow 108-54.

[bonafan]

i guess you guys have no more comebacks for my witty comments, thats too bad you have to resort to dumb assinine comments. The Bonnies are better than the patriots thats all there is to it...

Go bonas :arrow:

[MasonHoopzfan]

nah we're just going to ignore you and not waste our time. mason is going to kill you on the court, no question about it.

[118cc5]

Charisma Carpenter looks soooooooooo cute.