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RamBo
05-27-2003, 11:19 PM
At least, here are some that have come to mind. Thanks, Heywood. Since coming back up from your end-of-season low, your activity on the boards has once again inspired me. The CAA "General" Board (can't remember the thread), and your input has charged me up. So, I will review some of your earlier predictions, and the end results. I'm sure you will correct some of these, but here goes:
(1) Blaine Taylor 2003 CAA COY Candidate - WRONG (Not even Close)
(2) Ricardo Marsh CAA POY - WRONG
(3) Alex Laughton CAA ROY - WRONG (He is a fine player)
(4) Rasheed Wright - 1st Teamer ( At least 2nd) -WRONG
(5) Nick George - Athletic but Raw Talent, Needs Time to Contribute WRONG
(6) Troy Godwin - Too short, Too fat, Never be able to play the pivot in the CAA -WRONG
(7) Godwin & George - SMURFS, Will get dominated in the CAA - WRONG
(8 ) Jeff Capel III - No experience, Will get out-coached regularly -WRONG
(9) VCU willbe descent, but won't contend for CAA title - WRONG
(10) Michael Doles - Averaged 3 or 4 minutes a game, only a point or 2 at Wright State...Will not help - WRONG (The kid is GOOD)
(11) VCU will have no depth whatsoever, will get killed off the bench in the CAA - WRONG
(12) ODU's bench will dominate VCU's - WRONG
(13) Jancko Mrcsik will be a solid CAA back-up, far superior to any VCU back-up - WRONG
(14) Morris, Waller, Waldon, etc. will get the job done -WRONG
(15) Hunter will get it together quickly, and be a very good point guard
-WRONG - (He still may be descent, but can't shoot...I like Nance all day)
(16) ODU will be a factor, a Top-1/2 of the CAA team -WRONG
(17) ODU will come together late season with stellar coaching and senior leadership, and WILL be a factor in the Tournament - WRONG (I did agree with you on that one Woody...my mistake)
(18 ) ODU's recruiting class is "Clearly" the best in the CAA...not even close (Before all returns were in) - WRONG (Might still be the best, but it's definitely arguable, and nobody has scored a point yet)
(19) Dahi will be the highest ranked recruit in years - WRONG (He is a fantastic recruit...I'd love to have him...but his stock dropped a little bit.. he's not the highest rated recruit even in 2 years...Nick George finished higher ranked last year)
(20) Blaine Taylor will land B.A. Walker -WRONG (Although it does appear that Blaine got the guard he wanted in Lidonde, another fantastic recruit)
(21) VCU will not sweep ODU...Again. -WRONG
(0 For 21)
Anyway, I could sit herre and type all night. But I want to watch Chuck Norris blow some people up, then go to bed. My point is this: Heywood, why don't you let the cut under your nose heal for a couple of months. Do yourself a favor, man. Your predictions are all hilarious, in retrospect. You've got yourself one heck of a recruiting class there, brother. So why not enjoy the possibilities instead of adding up all your future championships. Look where all your other predictions have gotten you! :roll:
By the way...For all the ODU people. Your facility, "The Ted," is AWESOME. But have you been to the Siegel Center? You act like it's your old high-school gym. Don't any of you understand that this is how it works.... A school builds the best thing in 50 years on the entire planet... then 2 years later, a rival builds one just as nice or even a little nicer.... GMU is liable to put them both to shame next year, then JMU will do the same, etc., etc., etc. If anything, you guys should be thanking VCU for getting the ball rolling on State-Supported athletic upgrades at the Non UVA/VPI schools. Maybe we can all start getting a little respect. So please spare all of us any more dribble about "Premeir, second-to-none" facilities. We are extatic about what we've got, just as you should be about yours.
VCU4LIFE
05-27-2003, 11:50 PM
Is your keyboard smoking yet Bo? Go get some sleep bud!
RamKnowledge
05-28-2003, 09:05 AM
RamBo.................good list, very comprehensive. But don't forget this baseball-related classic..........
"With Verlander pitching every third or fourth game, finishing .500 in the CAA will be a piece of cake."
Our little NJ/Philly "grappler" is something, isn't he?!! :) Yo!!
ODU Commish
05-28-2003, 09:18 AM
This thread is further proof of the amount of pen*s envy VCU fans of ODU. I can't understand why you are so obsessed. The three of you that have responded to this thread will be the first to go away when your streak ends. You have beaten us 6 times in a row, congrats!!! By the way, I noticed you conveniently left out some of the predictions that Heywood got right. Now I understand that he got many more wrong than he did right, but saying he was "0-21" gives your argument much less credibility. Therefore RamKnowledge, this list was NOT COMPREHENSIVE.
By the way, if you have been to The Ted, the SC is NOT EVEN CLOSE. I've seen both. Have you? Also for the record, I believe that the Constant Center was in the plans long before the Siegel Center, but it never got started until Ted Constant ponied up 5 million dollars.
You guys had a 5 million dollar gift recently? Just curious, because money makes the athletic world go-round. :lol:
BradMan
05-28-2003, 09:24 AM
" Just curious, because money makes the athletic world go-round."
Not sure about making the athletic world go-round but at least at ODU it gets you sub 0.500 seasons in for your athletic programs :)
88RAM
05-28-2003, 10:08 AM
ODU,
After reading that post I think it ODU that has the penis envy....and they envy UNCW, Mason, and VCU's success.
On the other hand, I like the TED better. VCU was required to make the Siegel a MULTIPURPOSE building. When you do that, you get a blander product. However, it is still quite nice...seats 7500, and has up to date everything. I think Rupp arena, the Dean Smith Center, and the Carrier Dome are leaps and bounds better than the Siegal. The Ted is only slightly better!
ODU Commish
05-28-2003, 10:12 AM
I do envy UNCW and GMU's success in the last few years. I enjoy rooting for other CAA teams in postseason tournaments, and I wish it was ODU I was cheering for.
VCU has nothing to envy. You have a winning streak against us, and that is about it. No postseason appearances to speak of.
I guess the reason you guys spend so much time on our boards is because we're so envious. How funny!
VCU4LIFE
05-28-2003, 11:46 AM
That and everyone else on their boards realizes that they suck and don't want to talk about their men's b-ball team so they have to go everywhere else to do it. It's pretty damn annoying honestly, but just take it as a compliment that they wish their dicks were as big as ours so they spend all their time over here hoping some of that may rub off on them. Or is it that Blow Me is just trying to live up to his name? Hmm, something to consider....
VCU4LIFE
05-28-2003, 11:47 AM
Funny how Heywood has like 50x's the posts anyone else has and yet he hasn't yet replied to his thread. Come out of hiding Heywood!
ramband
05-28-2003, 12:09 PM
Penis Envy? No, Jealousy? No, its called a rivalry! When this happend people tend to jaw back and forth, get over it! 8)
ramband
05-28-2003, 12:10 PM
Great posty Rambo, i laughed my arse off! It is so true, come Heywood, where are u?
ODU Commish
05-28-2003, 03:24 PM
Funny how Heywood has like 50x's the posts anyone else has and yet he hasn't yet replied to his thread. Come out of hiding Heywood!
Too funny. Heywood has around 520 and you are at about 260. 50x??? I'm not trying to point out that you are obviously not a math wiz, but more that it is clear you are trying to rip Heywood for living on these boards, when you spend a large amount of time here yourself.
On top of that VCU4LIFE, your next post is classic. I could easily point to 15 threads on our board right now where you have a post, and you make it sound like we are the only ones posting on the other's boards.
At least ODU fans can admit when their program is hurting. We haven't been good since Cal's senior year. Only difference is, you guys think you are something special for beating us 6 times in a row. We've been under .500 each of those years. Congrats, that is a real "upper" for your program. :shock:
Just make the NIT at least once, then brag about how great you guys are. Until then, I'll leave you band folks alone so you can get back to what you do best. Peace!
Mr. Jablomi
05-28-2003, 05:19 PM
Sorry for the delay, I was in Manhattan (UGH) for most of the day.
Where to start?
First of all, the famous predictions of Taylor, Marsh, Loughton, etc, took place at exactly the half way point of the season, for those of you who do NOT have selective memory. At that point, ODU was 6-3, a game out of first, and coming off a very convincing win over UNCW. My post concerning post season awards was actually a "mid season" type of thing, saying, "if the year ended today...". Marsh was leading the league in scoring, and second in rebounding. Alex was the top scorer AND rebounder among freshmen. Taylor was coaching a team predicted to come in eigth to, at that time, a second place position.
As for ODU not being a top half of the league team, the went .500. They tied for fifth place. Anything to cheer about? No, but not awful, either.
Our bench WAS the deepest in the league, and I'll guarantee you our freshmen class outproduced any in the league, in terms of points, rebounds, assists, minutes played, etc, so I would stop short of saying they are NOT the best class from last year.
As for us signing BA, show me where I posted that. I NEVER posted that we would sign him. I posted that it was down to Rutgers and VCU after we had signed Lidonde, whom I know for a fact was the kid ODU really wanted.
Dahi IS the highest rated recruit this league has seen in some time, and had the high major offers to prove it. Show me ONE LINK that says George had offers from some high major programs.
As for Janko, he was a true freshman, stepping in and playing significant minutes. The waste of a scholarship YOU have was a JUCO, who does not belong at the D1 level. Janko is, and will be, better than any backup center on your roster. Period.
As for JCIII, you guys seem a little delusional about that guy. Let's look at this objectively, and tell me where I am mistaken.
A. He inherited a 21 win team.
B. He returned the key ingredients TO that team, and had Godwin handed to him.
C. He had the CAA ROY on his roster.
D. He played a SIGNIFICANTLY easier schedule than the previous year, STACKED with home games (75% of the OOC schedule was at home).
E. He has the built in advantage of playing the CAA tourney AT HOME, which is an ENORMOUS advantage in college ball. (I believe the home team winning % in 1A ball last year was just under 60%).
F. The team he inherited had advanced to the CAA championship game the previous year.
G. Despite ALL OF THESE things going for him, he:
*won fewer games
*had a lower winning %
*did not advance as far in the conference tourney
*has done NOTHING to improve the schedule
*has done, AT BEST, a mediocre recruiting job
Last but not least, comparing the SC to the Ted is a joke. You guys have a big gym. We have a state of the art arena. We did it right, you left something to be desired. Not saying the SC is a slum, but it is not even close to the Ted.
VCU4LIFE
05-28-2003, 05:41 PM
"C. He had the CAA ROY on his roster."
Too funny. Immediately after saying he had Godwin handed to him (which he did not!!!) he says this. Yo a-hole, he RECRUITED the CAA ROY in the time period AFTER the signing period, which we are in right now....watch out, he might pull another CAA ROY out of his hat! Too funny!
"*has done NOTHING to improve the schedule"
HA! I'd trade GA Tech for Wagner any day. LaSalle, not too shabby. Last year's schedule was out of his control, yet you hold that against him. Oh, and there's still 3-4 games left to schedule. Then again, why go out and stack your schedule only to get kicked in the rear and finnish .500 in your conference? Yeah, great idea!
"*has done, AT BEST, a mediocre recruiting job "
Hmm, what was that about the CAA ROY? Yep, he recruited him. Godwin? Well, you don't believe me so why waste my breath. K-Mo? Well, OK, but he and Janko sure put up a great battle against each other. And actually, it was K-Mo who had a big hand in that final play in the game where we BEAT ODU (again) in their precious new building. This year? Johnnie Story is back, Capel may have had that handed to him, who knows. Alex Harper? Former SC HS All-Star Team or something like that. Drew Johnson? NC HS All-Star Team. BA Walker? Don't even have to prove to you on that one. Let's see, ODU tried to recruit Johnson and Walker, yep they are scrubs.
The whole SC-Ted comparison? Well, I think the Ted is a bit better. The sound system needs to be replaced and then I will have no complaints. However, why don't you get up off your Philly arse, quit making excuses on game day, and get your sorry ass down to the SC next year for a game. I don't think you have any place to pass judgement in a discussion like this until you have seen both places. Feel free to argue, you have no credibility.
VCU4LIFE
05-28-2003, 05:44 PM
Oh, I almost forgot about you Commish. (Yeager was blocking my view.) Please, find me those 15 threads. Oh, as for my math skills, ever heard of EXAGGERATION?!?
Mr. Jablomi
05-28-2003, 05:53 PM
I've been to the SC. It was, I believe, Pierre Greene's freshman year. The only place I've not been is UNCW. I actually went to an ODU game at TU prior to TU getting into the CAA. What a terrible place to watch a game.
As for Godwin, who recruited him? Mack, that's who.
As for the schedule, you're excited about LaSalle? What happened to Duke, Missouri, Notre Dame, etc, coming to the SC? Reality has struck, huh? GET READY FOR THE HILLTOPPERS!!!! WOOOOOOOO!!!! That'll pack em in, right?
As far as recruiting, you guys are all pumped about a walk in coming in, despite you having TWO scholarships to give. That tells me all I need to know about that kid.
VCU4LIFE
05-28-2003, 06:00 PM
I didn't even mention Capel! But you're right, he gives us an advantage over ODU and that ever dangerous 12th man that gave us fits last year! Yeah, your bench sure gave it to us both games last year. Man, whatever will we do? Ha, I'm laughing so hard I think I am gonna cry! :lol:
paranoia1975
05-28-2003, 06:12 PM
Rambo
Your long posts are CLASSIC!!
RamBo
05-28-2003, 09:46 PM
Glad I've stirred a few folks up with this one. It's all in fun, and anyone that knows me understands that. I actually like Heywood. We've been talking about a steak dinner for some time now. Peace Woodrow!! But Heywood and everyone else does also know that his senseless bragging drives me crazy. So if you want to look at it that way, Well...Yeah, I guess he does get the best of me sometimes. Let me make a few more points, now that I've read all the responses:
1) Heywood, you are pretty cool sometimes (Oh my God...Did I just write that???) :shock: You have actually "boned up" to making many of those predictions. Good man! I still think it's funny that you did that after only 9 games (as you wrote). Big mistake. But class response, my man.
2) I am as proud as any human being alive to be a VCU grad. I am born and bread into the VCU family, even growing up in VA Beach, which makes this all the more interesting, and fun, for me. So I hope nobody will EVER think I envy ODU. I have come to really respect ODU as a school and athletic program, but I could have gone almost anywhere I wanted, and I chose VCU because of the love I have ALWAYS had for it. There is no envy here, and I'm looking for big things from both schools, and both programs.
3) On the finer side.... (fine tuning now)...Capel did basically have Godwin wrapped up before he even took the job. But let's give the man some credit. He, and HIS staff, did close the deal during a very temultuous time. Godwin could have easily slipped away.
4) Capel did have the ROY on his team. Do you know why? Because he went out and recruited the ROY. And signed the ROY. And played the ROY. And started the ROY. And developed the ROY (to some degree). Hat's off for a great move.
5) VCU's best player had a sub-par year last year...not due to a lack of effort by any means, but rather due to (my understanding from people close to him, anyway...I'm no expert, and I don't know him) a very difficult set of personal circumstances, which I am proud to see that he is overcoming. I think he's a great person, and one HE$$ of a ball-player.
6) Several new key players. Lack of consistent chemistry.
7) Key injuries in the off-season making preparations very difficult.
8 ) A very competitive, and extremely well-coached league. Tons of big-time seniors.
9) My overall assessment: The season was not a total success b'c there was no reward at the end. No post-season. But still the best coaching performance, BY FAR, than I've seen at VCU in years. I actually see something bright for our future, for a change. Sure, JC-3 did make some mistakes. He will make more. But I like what I see. The kid can coach. I would like to see a little more recruiting production (I thought last year's effort was amazing, given the circumstances).
So, thanks for the fun Heywood. I think your assessment of Capel is way to simplistic, but your post is class. Just having some fun. I think VCU and ODU are on a collision course for great things. Just like the old days!!
ODU True Blue
05-28-2003, 09:58 PM
Not ot beat a dead horse, but I think Rambo's posts are long to make up for his 2 inches :lol: :lol: You know to overcompensate!
VCU4LIFE
05-29-2003, 12:03 AM
That didn't make much sense. :roll:
VCU Toni
05-29-2003, 01:33 AM
ODU TB, I NEVER understand what you mean when you say that. I think it's stupid of you to post something like that. A joke is suppose to be an obvious expression of words that MAKE SENSE the FIRST time the other person hears it. LEARN FROM THIS DEFINITION.
anyway....
GREAT JOB RAMBO.....you really have a great eye on things, I look forward to reading your lengthy posts.
VCU Toni
05-29-2003, 04:29 AM
OH.....MY.....GOSH!!! I JUST SPENT 3 HOURS LOOKING UP INFORMATION ON NICK GEORGE...COPYING, PASTING, COPYING, PASTING...JUST TO SHUT OD-WHO'S MOUTHS' UP.
but from what i can remember, NICK GEORGE was rated #111 in Prepstars last year. The coach at USC told the paper down there that Nick had offers from Missouri, South Carolina, VCU, Dayton, and some other school I forgot. South Carolina did not have a scholarship for him in the beginning of May, but from what I read was getting one. Also, Nick got responses from Syracuse (they were on one of the lists).
Nick was one of the top prospects in EUROPE while in England. He was the UK's national junior player of the year (male--the POY was some guy that plays for the Magic). He also did not start at Montrose, he started at Bishop ____. He did one season with Klieza (Mizzou) and was MVP of the Capital Classic team.
heywood, i don't know if dahi is higher than 111, but he was pre-season (#103) prepstars. what is he now? the only non-subscription thing i found said #132.
RAMKING
05-29-2003, 09:41 AM
Concerning Heywood's last two points...
*has done NOTHING to improve the schedule
How can you say Georgia Tech and LaSalle vs. Florida Atlantic and North Carolina A&T is not an improvement? Capel had no control over the NCAT and FAU games last year since they were contracted by Mack. The WKU series was added by Capel that replaced Gardner-Webb from the previous schedule. Duke is not going to play VCU due to the coach K connection so you can eliminate that one. Yeah, there's no Missouri or Michigan on the docket, but to say that Capel has not improved the schedule is just plain false. VCU has NEVER been able to get an ACC team on the schedule outside of Virginia until this season.
*has done, AT BEST, a mediocre recruiting job
Toni has given you the Nick George credentials...he was about the best available in last season's late signing period. That is why he was heavily recruited by SC, MO, and Dayton. Troy was recruited by Mack, but he was SIGNED by Capel. There have been many times a coaching change has severed ties with a recuit, but Jeff was able to hang on to him. BA Walker is a SOLID CAA signing that will do well. There is a lot of bashing about Alexander Harper, but the man has SOLID credentials out of high school. He led his team to the AAA South Carolina state title, was the MVP of the North Carolina/South Carolina all star game (24 pts / 11-11 shooting), and was listed as a top 200 recruit on at least 2 lists I've seen(CNN and Hoopscoop). He's a 6-3/6-4 point guard that has three years of eligibility left. Yeah, there's not much to go on from his JUCO year last season, but if VCU landed him just a year prior out of high school we wouldn't be having this conversation. Did he suddenly learn how to suck in just one year?
K-MO? No argument here? The big man losses of Mickens and Lambert? Stings. But to say Capel "AT BEST" is a mediocre recruiter is a little off the mark. Great recruiter? No. Slightly above average CAA recruiter with Godwin, George, Walker, and Alexander...That would be my opinion.
Mr. Jablomi
05-29-2003, 10:18 AM
Toni, provide ONE LINK that states that George had offers from Missouri, Syracuse, Dayton. Just one.
King, Godwin was already recruited, and just agreed to stay with VCU.
Walker sounds like a nice signing, and should be a good CAA player. Harper and Johnson sound like mediocre players. The world is full of guys who put up big numbers in HS, but with Harper, you can actually look to see how he competed with college level players. He was mediocre, at best. If you like, I'll post a number of links to game summaries and boxscores from his time in JUCO. Not awful, but nothing special.
As for the schedule, I agree it is better than last season, but still far from exciting. Come on, you guys keep bringing up LaSalle. I think LaSalle will be greatly improved this year, but hardly a big name team.
GA Tech is a nice game, but that's it. Ole Miss sounds like they won't be coming to the SC. Without them, the VCU schedule is pretty dull, IMO. I don't know how you could disagree with that.
One quick question for you guys, why won't UVA play any CAA teams? ODU used to play them on a pretty regular basis, but can't get them on the schedule anymore. Has VCU tried at all to schedule them?
King, one other thing, regarding Capel's recruiting, and this is obvious. Considering you just lost alot of talent, and will lose Jones and Godwin next season (and Moore, which is a help), you have to admit that having two scholarships go unused is an issue. AT LEAST one of them should have gone to a young, big man, to allow him to develop this year, and to prepare him for next year. You can't be happy that Capel has failed to land that type of player, or put those scholarships to good use, at this time. You can't always expect to land guys last minute.
Rambo, we'll definitely get together at some point this season. Maybe at O'Sullivan's before the ODU/VCU game.
Ramdog
05-29-2003, 10:48 AM
if You think our OOC schedule is "pretty dull" you should see our conference schedule, it really sucks.
RAMKING
05-29-2003, 10:51 AM
Wood,
His name is Pete Gillen...he is the reason why UVA won't play CAA teams or state teams. He feels he has nothing to gain by playing them. Jeff Jones regularly played state teams when he was coach so maybe Gillen has a point looking at Jones' resume. I think we played UVA two-three times during Jones' tenure. I know ODU and UR did as well. I bet Gillen would like to drop Virginia Tech as well (especially after last year).
If we can keep the Mississippi game, get another solid mid-major at home, and one cupcake at home then the schedule, although not rosy, would still be more attractive than last year. I'm just looking for step by step improvement on this one from the Gardner-Webb, Wagner, FAU, NCA&T, and ETSU' schedules of recent years.
The one thing that hurts me most about recruiting is the lack of a big man in this year's class. If Capel would have landed a 3 star level (or above) freshman or JUCO, then I would have been very satisfied with this year's class. As you mentioned, a hole has not been filled. Here's hoping for a miracle this summer.
Man, is it hoops season yet?
Mr. Jablomi
05-29-2003, 11:22 AM
Yeah, Pete Gillen, what a coward.
If VCU keeps Ole Miss, and can get one more good team into the SC (one of the Big Five schools?), the schedule would be okay. I know St Joe's is always willing to play any school that seems to want them. ODU has them on the schedule fairly often, as does Delaware. I would like to see ODU pick up Temple or Villanova, to get a little more exposure in the Philly area. I think this area has been underrecruited by the CAA schools for a long time.
BradMan
05-29-2003, 11:52 AM
I didn't see Blaine bring in the ROY in his first recruiting season. Nor Finish the signing on a guy like Godwin. Nor land a top state recruit as in BA Walker after only one season. It wasn't until this recruiting period that Blaine brought anyone significant to the table. That is a summer, two falls, and two spring recruiting seasons to bring in anyone of the caliber of a Godwin, George, or BA. Considering Capel is in his 1st year of coaching and Blaine was a top dog at Montana....that really says something.
Regarding Godwin.....Ask Shavers of W&M what happened to all those recruits interested in W&M/Boyages --- signing a recruit after the former coach leaves is not an easy thing.....and this is especially true when it comes to a 1st year coach....give credit where credit is due. Why won't you compare the quality of Blaines recruits his first year at ODU vs Capel's....that would be a fairer assessment. Heck Jamboli, Blaine is going into his third year at ODU and he still doesn't have anyone of the quality of Marsh or Wright - with respect to their proven college playing ability. I believe some of your current recruits this spring will surpass both Marsh and Wright but as of yet ODU has no one reliable enough to step up. We are in a similar boat with replacements for Taylor, Willie and Mathis...and we too will have to wait and see.
And regarding our schedule, we had a number of contracted games from the previous year. As for the coming year lets compare ODU's previous schedule and our upcoming schedule....you played GW and we play LaSalle...look at the records last year...pretty even. You played St. Joes and we played W. Kentucky.....similar record and both NCAA teams. You played NC and we play Ga Tech pretty close in record and they split their conference games last year. And tell me about NC's record the previous year??????? We may or may not have Ole Miss next year....They were marginal last year but still a high profile school down south....at least higher profile than East Carolina!...albeit with a similar record last year. Plus we still have several games to fill in our OOC schedule. Who knows, maybe we can add those high profile powerhouses like MD Eastern Shore. And maybe you guys could actually beat Hampon this year????....doubt it!
Look before you leap and think before you speak. With the exeption of Ole Miss and W. Kent, our OOC schedule last year wasn't all that thrilling but we had little choice. What was your schedule like in Blaines first year of coaching? I don't see where your shedule last year is leaps and bounds above our upcoming schedule. Do some comparisons first before you open your mouth
Mr. Jablomi
05-29-2003, 12:41 PM
Brad, Taylor is in his third year, Capel his second. You make it sound like Taylor has been around 6-7 years.
As for his class, and not having signed anyone, Alex Loughton was all rookie team, had numbers nearly identical to George's. Isaiah Hunter was the top scoring freshman guard in the league. All five freshmen started at least one game. Talk about not giving credit where it's due.
As for landing a top recruit like BA, and I'm not knocking BA, but Taylor just signed 3-4 guys more highly regarded than BA.
As for the schedule, GW/LaSalle: Push. GA Tech/UNC, advantage (on name recognition alone)UNC (Roy William's first game as UNC coach). St Joe's/WKU? Come on, not even close. SJU is a top 20 team, and will be AT LEAST top 20 in the preseason, assuming Jameer Nelson is back (which is likely).
We also have UNCC at home, VA Tech at Tech. They are games against Conference USA and Big East teams. We play the ACC, Big East, C USA, and 2 A 10 teams. Not an awesome schedule, but easily better than this year's VCU schedule.
Last but not least, Capel WAS an assistant with Mack, so signing Godwin had to be a little easier than what the clowns over at W&M have to do. W&M was completely unprepared for their coach's resignation, whereas VCU had Capel hired before the ink was dry on Mack's resignation.
VCU4LIFE
05-29-2003, 02:44 PM
I don't get it. Your signature line says ODU hoops is making a comeback. Listening to the crap pouring out of your mouth you would think that nothing is wrong in Monarchville and nothing was ever or will ever be wrong. What are you making a comeback from? Your D-2 title? Making a comeback to D-2? Damn, I was really looking forward to beating ODU 2-3 times next year. Man, UNC will be shocked when they find out that they have a game scheduled with a D-2 school...
Mr. Jablomi
05-29-2003, 03:08 PM
Of ALLLLLLLLLL the idiots on these boards, and believe me, this place is full of idiots, you may well be the biggest. When I say you bring NOTHING to these boards, I mean it. Zip. Now, I may bang heads with some of the guys here, and may not particularly care for some of these people,but they at least make somewhat intelligent posts once in a while. You can't even pull off the occassional decent post. Ever.
VCU4LIFE
05-29-2003, 04:25 PM
What? I can't hear you. Please remove Dahi's **** from your mouth before speaking next time. Thanks.
Mr. Jablomi
05-29-2003, 04:43 PM
Class act. You just keep proving my point. A disgrace to the black and gold.
RamBo
05-29-2003, 05:16 PM
OK Boys...Now be nice, or you can't play here anymore. :lol:
VCU Toni
05-30-2003, 09:19 AM
Brad, I wouldn't say anything negative about ODU's schedule. I think they had one of the best OOC if not the best OOC schedule last year. But, I think it's unfair for Heywood to tell us that our coach is not recruiting. Heywood, remember one thing. Our bench is deeper than ODU's before both school's 03-04 recruits come in. We lost a LOT but we keep a lot as well. You guys lost all that you had. That is why you will depend on so many new faces next year. We are looking to add to our roster, not redo it. Don't get me wrong, ODU has a lot of talent returning, but that talent just does not play well together (or did not last season). But anyway, don't down Capel. He recruited the people he wanted to recruit. One of the people he wanted was a big man. HE WILL GET ONE. That's just JC3. So we are not worried, so why are you?
As for the Nick links, I spent hours copying and pasting links so that people like you will put it to rest seriously. But it all got lost when the page automatically refreshed on me :( I was so mad! But I tried to put as much information up here as I remembered. The Syracuse offer was on a page that you used for Dahi hosted by AOL. The article on Mizzou and the others were from the USC town paper. I will try to find them later, but Heywood..I am tired. I searched through 371 pages to find that stuff...It was so good :( But I won't dwell on that.
About Troy, that's a good point heywood. Hey, maybe Capel was the one that recruited Troy altogether (asst. coaches recruit):) But no matter what, we still got Troy and he decided to stay. That's all that matters.
As for our schedule, as KING said, we still had contracts to forfill and didn't have the freedom to schedule the ones we wanted last year. Who would even play us? As we say "donut schools (easy wins)" they look to the CAA for the same. They will NOT look to VCU for a donut game...it just won't happen. Capel has called EVERY TOP-MAJOR school for games. Ga Tech finally got off their high-horse. The more we make the "grade," the better our schedule will get. But the more we do 2nd, 3rd place in the CAA, the harder it will get because we have "big win potential." Honestly, those schools look at ODU and think "donut school"....I doubt that though, I think you guys will beat NC next year.
We also have another prospect school coming in for next year ;)
Sure to hush your mouth, Heywood :)
ODU Commish
05-30-2003, 09:35 AM
Granted it was after Taylor's second year, and not his first, but Brad did you forget the Valdas Vasilius is from Norfolk Collegiate? His HS coach was quoted as saying the A-10 and Big East schools started calling him up right when he decided to sign with ODU.
As far as immediate impact, I would suspect that Val will be more of an impact player than BA in their first years. Especially since BA will be a redshirt candidate if he can't put on 15-20 pounds in the offseason.
MistaChill
05-31-2003, 02:22 PM
RamBo - How reliable is your source regarding Dom? I said early on last season that something was going on with him mentally because he played like he was distracted. And while everyone from his coach to the people on this board kept making up excuses for his play, to me it was obviously something was wrong with him and it wasn't physical.
If what you're saying is true, I'm happy to hear that he's overcoming whatever was going on in his life last season and I expect to huge season from him.
I'm just tired of people trying to cover for Dom and pretend that he didn't have a sub-par season last year.
TJ Reaper
06-13-2004, 01:11 AM
THROWBACK THREAD!!!!
Good, well EXCELLENT, read! It's like the Summer of 2003 posting what Heywood predicted incorrectly in 2002! How awesome?
MistaChill
06-13-2004, 11:14 AM
http://scout.theinsiders.com/a.z?s=75&p ... &nid=10968 (http://scout.theinsiders.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&cfg=null&c=1&yr=2002&nid=10968)
Received offers from:
LaSalle - A-10
Seton Hall - Big East
South Carolina - SEC
West Virginia - Big East
Show me ONE LINK that says George had offers from some high major programs.
ramathon74
06-13-2004, 11:43 AM
He’s great around the basket and plays with nearly unrivaled intensity.
Whoever wrote this after seeing Nick play, sure knew what he was talking about. I can't think of another player who I've ever seen with his level of intensity; HS, college or pro.
MistaChill
06-13-2004, 02:07 PM
Can't provide the link, but you can easily confirm this:
Copyright 2002 Richmond Newspapers, Inc.
Richmond Times Dispatch (Virginia)
May 21, 2002 Tuesday City Edition
SECTION: SPORTS; Pg. E-7
LENGTH: 250 words
HEADLINE: ANOTHER RECRUIT FOR CAPEL, VCU
BYLINE: John Packett, Times-Dispatch Staff Writer, Contact John Packett at (804) 649-6313, or jpackett@timesdispatch.com,
BODY:
Virginia Commonwealth coach Jeff Capel completed his first recruiting class with a player who appears to be the best of the trio of signees.
Forward Nick George, a 6-6 200-pounder from Montrose Christian School in Rockville, Md., has committed to the Rams, Capel said yesterday.
A native of Manchester, England, George averaged 19 points and 11 rebounds as a senior for Montrose this past season.
"He's a terrific athlete," said Montrose coach Stu Vetter, "and an outstanding defensive player. He plays with tremendous energy. He would be an outstanding addition to any team."
George was recruited by South Carolina, Missouri, La Salle, Dayton and Western Kentucky before deciding on VCU last week.
"He should be able to step in and compete for minutes right away," Capel said. "If he works on his game, which I know he will, he has a chance to be a very special player for us and in the league [Colonial Athletic Association]. He can score, he can defend, he's really, really athletic. He plays hard and has a lot of passion for the game."
Vetter has coached such college stars as Randolph Childress, George Lynch and Dennis Scott, as well as Capel's brother, Jason, when he was at St. John's at Prospect Hall (Md.). Capel projects George as a wing player, but his position won't be determined until fall practice begins.
Capel's two other recruits were 6-6, 300-pound forward Troy Godwin (Allegany Community College) and 6-10, 240-pound center Kevin Moore (Daytona Beach CC).
Show me ONE LINK that says George had offers from some high major programs.
TJ Reaper
06-13-2004, 03:52 PM
Guys, get ready because I am going to post a chronicle of Jablomi posts....involving VCU...here. Man, the range is EXCELLENT, like reading a book! And after doing my research, Heywood, you might wanna go ahead and take those "I NEVER said ODU would compete for the title" quotes away because that's ALL you EVER said once the season started....
Mr. Jablomi
06-13-2004, 07:08 PM
Again, saying a guy was recruited by a school is not the same as saying he had offers from a school.
Last year, Illinois and Stanford, among others, "recruited" Abdi Lidonde, but they wanted him to sit tight to see if other recruits fell through before offering him a ride.
Show me a link that said he had OFFERS from S. Carolina, Missouri, etc. You won't find them.
Toni, go to the ODU boards. I'll bring some old threads up that had my season predictions. Everyone of them had GMU 1, VCU 2, ODU 4.
I also successfully predicted that Loughton would be one of, if not the, best interior players in the league, which you guys scoffed at.
I also said Hunter would break out, again, you guys scoffed.
Toni, off ALL the posters on these boards, do you REALLY want to bring up old predictions? You bounce all over. I'm sure there are threads around where you predicted TU would win the national title, after all, TU (and whatever other school you happened to be posting about), is your favorite school outside of VCU, right?
How about the threads comparing George and Loughton after their freshmen year, when you guys were saying he's better than Alex, and I said no way. Care to refresh those threads?
Rambob
06-13-2004, 07:39 PM
blomi, what's wrong with a thread saying George is better than Loughton, he is.
Mr. Jablomi
06-13-2004, 07:52 PM
Now THAT is funny!!!
RAMMER
06-13-2004, 07:59 PM
Actually you thought Dahi would be better than Loughton. so that makes you what 3-1,578. nice average. :roll:
TJ Reaper
06-13-2004, 09:49 PM
Rammer is correct. I am still HTML'ing the posts.......
Heywood, all in your post above was DURING the season. Pre-season, you were all on Dahi's jock.....even said he would be ODU's leading scorer.
Also, don't talk to me about changes. I admit, I have grown a LOT in my knowledge of the game. If someone quoted "VCU Toni" it would be funny to me because I have grown so much since then. However, you are the SAME OLE' 'BLOMI making the same type of predictions/projections being realistic only 15% of the time. But you (and I) were dead on about UNCW's season though.
When I post it, just laugh at it.
And we shall see who will have the better year next year. Predictions are REALLY pointless. Are VCU fans doing as much as you? No. Are fellow ODU fans? No. In fact, most ODU fans think ODU will be a top 5 team, but that Drexel (90% of the board thinks this as well) will be the team to beat.
One thing I found funny was how you would compare the SOS's throughout the season. ODU had the better schedule, surely, but it was like this:
HAHA! ODU 41, VCU 240
a month later: HAHA! STILL AHEAD! ODU 81, VCU 185
a month later: HAHA! STILL AHEAD! ODU 135, VCU 140
I just thought it was funny that you would still take time to compare, even when the differences were so miniscule......
MistaChill
06-14-2004, 10:17 AM
So "offers" from two big east schools, an SEC school and an A-10 school still isn't good enough?
Besides, whether its Dahi or George I think no matter what side of the debate you're on, relying on info from this recruiting websites isn't the most reliable source of info.
Besides, in the past you've said you gauge the talent of recruits based on who else recruits him.
The Insiders link said Nick had OFFERS from South Carolina, West Virginia, Seton Hall and LaSalle.
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